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Post by OohMac on Sept 22, 2018 20:36:26 GMT
Hard to say anything. Sums up Parky. First chance to get a creative player off and he takes it to squeeze the life out of the games.
0 shots on target and the hard-core fans would have gone 700 miles supporting the club this week. Do they not deserve a bit more.
Of course Parky can deflect all this and talk about the red card and how unlucky it is.
This result won't change much, hardly worth wasting any time on it.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 22, 2018 21:33:21 GMT
Could have gone ether way should have gone our way but yet again no ambition shown from our management team until 1 minute from time. I'm sorry but Grounds and Buckley need to find a different sport as they are 💩 Next up the money spending Chelsea B team manage by the next England manager if you believe what sky sports pundits tell you. COYWM And Derby have just dished out a good hiding to a fairly decent Brentford side Chip, so the omens don’t look good for when we take them on😬😬😬😬😬
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2018 22:26:40 GMT
It would just be like Bolton to go and beat them and for us to get our home form on track.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 22, 2018 22:44:50 GMT
Just to add PP once again came out and said we need to start on the front foot.
Wilson was sent off on 35 mins.
I would say that more than constitutes a start. In those 35 mins we registered no shots on target.
If that's his idea of front foot then I wouldn't like to see a pragmatic Parky.
At least Dave Bassett knew he was levelling the field but playing horrible anti football. PP thinks he's good value for the £30 a time ticket.
Ken - take the honesty box test. Next game let it be £1 entry upfront and then a donation based on value for money. I'd say most would want their quid back.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 23, 2018 8:48:44 GMT
It would just be like Bolton to go and beat them and for us to get our home form on track. Now you are dreaming Chip. I see a total thrashing for us but then you never know, we could get lucky like at West Brom.
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Post by joanna on Sept 23, 2018 10:21:49 GMT
The better team won at West Brom. We were even more convincing at Reading. Did you actually attend?
The irony is that you have the gall to call Parky negative!! Pot and kettle.
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Post by joanna on Sept 23, 2018 10:46:28 GMT
PS: Agree with those who say we need to adopt a more positive approach at home with more support up-front for McGennis.
But for the moment, happy to accept the progress from league one and promotion to championship and survival...... and now massive upturn in away successes and a mid-table start compared with last year's.
The best news of all to be celebrated is that we are still actually in business, and slightly more skilful players have been recruited in order to improve the quality of play once we know what each newcomer can consistently offer at this level and which combinations work best.
I would have thought that in the midst of all the repetitive, automatic, weekly criticism from Mr. Happy and co., there might at least be some cheery acknowledgement of our saviour Eddie's munificence in death.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 23, 2018 13:01:33 GMT
I would have thought that in the midst of all the repetitive, automatic, weekly criticism from Mr. Happy and co., there might at least be some cheery acknowledgement of our saviour Eddie's munificence in death.[/quote]
There's already a different thread for that!
I don't see why you need to get personal and take swipes at people because they offer a different opinion. Even if they've expressed it already. Just agree to disagree and time will tell.
I'm anti Parky, nothing against him personally but I think he speaks in soud bites/stock phrases and says things he clearly doesn't mean. And I'm not set in stone. Parky could always win me over by ripping up his playbook and starting to play entertaining football. As with Leeds Birmingham yesterday there is not one team that cannot beat any other team in this league. Us included.
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Post by joanna on Sept 23, 2018 14:15:53 GMT
But you, and others, get nastily personal about our manager in virtually every post you write....and the Eddie Davies thread has the princely total of 5 responses with just a small amount of thanks from a couple of appreciative fans....whilst you are cynical about his baling the club out!
Between the two of them, Eddie and Phil have saved the club from virtual extinction, and even as Eddie is buried, there is scant appreciation from some fans about his utter commitment and undying financial support.
In any case, read carefully and you will see that I'm not being unduly personal....just lamenting the weekly negativity for a management that is helping the club make progress against massive odds that would have floored most others.
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Post by joanna on Sept 23, 2018 14:30:15 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 23, 2018 15:56:37 GMT
Joanna, if you’ll permit me to say, I don’t believe anyone on here wants to keep bleating on about PP, I’m not trying to speak for those on here that you clearly aim your displeasure at, maybe myself included, I’m merely stating that Phil is driving the fans away with his unpredictable and uninspiring football as he is not up to the task. We’ve been down the route of accepting that he nearly cocked up big time at S****horpe, Oldham and Bury whilst we ambled over the line to promotion and the defeat at Burton and snatching draws at Barnsley with unnecessary substitutions when victory was ours to leave us with lottery football v Notts Forest just to stay in this league. I also accept that we are in a stronger position than previously, just!!! We just want to see entertainment, without the need for a trip to the Palais. We just want to see him set up a team right, to attack, be on the front foot as best as possible, crikey, he even told us that we were going to have to be on the front foot and then we don’t have a single shot at goal in over half an hour yesterday!!!! I still say that PP is one hell of a lucky fellar, lucky to still be manager at our wonderful club and lucky that he has the chairman right where he wants him due to Ken’s lack of funding to afford to rid us of him. Mid table when you have a cushion of 15-20 points from the drop is a vast difference from mid table with just a couple more defeats to see us in the bottom 4 where most bookoes have us positioned. Like I’ve stated elsewhere, I started off so positively, even I the results were fortuitous, but having witnessed a couple of games, live and on telly, I can only see the cream rising and we are not cream by a long chalk
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Post by OohMac on Sept 23, 2018 16:48:38 GMT
First of all I was cynical about Phil and Eddie before they died so it would be hypocritical to go over the top.
I've been of the opinion for a long time now that Parkinson is an anchor that's slowing us down, I'm not sure he needs you to jump to his defence by the way he can shut me up any time by winning games. He might get a call from another club who value his style, (AFC)Wimbeldon may decide to try and recreate the 1980s. We may bring someone in who wants to play attacking football and we may get thumped each match and we all may be saying fair enough that shows what a tough job Parky had and what a great job he did.
I don't see how you can mention Gary Megsons name around Bolton and people look like you've insulted them. Dougie Freedman likewise is hated and for me PP is just a watered down version of both these. They both had some success in the league prior to us.
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Post by joanna on Sept 23, 2018 18:18:41 GMT
I certainly don't mind anyone expressing their opinions but you must see that simply repeating the same negatives in slightly different words week after week after week is as tedious and soul-destroying as the Parky style of football you so despise. We get the point:- you want rid! But be very careful what you wish for! Sometimes better the devil you know!
Just as you say Parky is driving the fans away, so the same could be said for many posters on this site whose comments are entirely predictable and drive away more positive contributors with interesting ideas. Very few regulars could recommend a manager who would be able to guarantee the success Phil has had under the same cashless conditions. I would take points and pragmatism over pretty football every time....until we have the money to do things differently whilst ensuring a decent haul of points.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 23, 2018 19:06:53 GMT
There will never be a guarantee that a manager can come in and be successful. For any club.
I'm more than happy to take the risk and give someone who wants to play the game the right way. Even if it means learning lessons along the way.
Yes you're right, I am repeating myself and covering ground. However what I like to do is talk football. Pre match, post match, build up. I don't see why anyone should be silent as they have nothing positivity to say.
For what it's worst too there are a few people on here who are genuinely fair and without agenda and they too seem to be fed up of this regime
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Sept 23, 2018 19:42:52 GMT
Joanna, Phil has not had success at this club.....hes been a very lucky bunny !!!!.. We got promoted in spite of him, not because of him. His ability to set a team up is about as poor as it gets and people like you don't want or cant see it. He consistently gets it wrong and its costing this club valuable points. He will empty the Reebok and relegate us if he is not removed. Put him on gardening leave and install David Lee, that way we might get a bit of pass n move. Will other posters please forget about Mick MacCarthy……….I`d do a better job than him.
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