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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 15, 2018 19:10:35 GMT
Waste of time moaning about tactics etc coz its never gonna change under this Gonk.!! There are too many posters on here who can`t or won`t see the wood for the trees. Parkinson will empty the Reebok. Next 5 matches...…..Middlesbro away, Ipswich away, Derby home, Stoke away and Blackburn Home...….2 points from that lot if we are lucky.!!! I swore blind I would not return to the Reebok while Parky is in charge....turns out I was wrong. I will be going to the Rod Stewart concert next June. He might be getting on a bit now, but one thing is for sure....He will be a bloody lot more entertaining than anything Parkinson has served up during the last 2 years. Should listen to Whites 63` ….he seems to be not far off the mark most of the time. Like me woppy, I said I wouldn't go again until Parky's left but I'm going to the Leave means Leave rally next weekend and for once I'm sure I'll come out satisfied, enthused and confident. What a shame I can never do that with the football!!
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Sept 15, 2018 19:15:39 GMT
Might go to that as well.!!
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Post by Alptrotter on Sept 15, 2018 21:38:35 GMT
Another poor home performance. It’s odd how our form this season is almost an inverse of last season: rubbish at home and good on the road. For me, QPR were definitely no great shakes. The idea they outplayed us, sorry, I just didn’t see that. I saw two poor teams, I do agree with those who argue that we should pressure teams from the start at home. When Josh came on, QPR went into panic mode and could easily have ended up not winning the game. In home games and all games against mediocre teams ( of which there are many), we need to lose one of O’Neil and Lowe, and play with 2 up front ( Josh or Doidge plus Amiobi or Noone in support) and a diamond with Oztumer at the point and Williams and Vela to each side. Oh and get rid of Grounds and Wildschut.
Maybe also its time to check out other options at CB. Wheater and especially Beevers look slow and tentative.
We should be beating teams like QPR. Today’s was a poor result for Parky. He badly needs to rethink his home tactics.
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Post by bonaparte on Sept 15, 2018 22:51:11 GMT
Can't agree more alp but pp picks the team and sets the strategy. No hope for change.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 16, 2018 9:20:11 GMT
I'd be saying to Vela to forget about that number 10 role and put him in direct competition with O,Neil and Murphy.
If he doesn't have the fire in his belly to beat a guy 10 years his senior to reclaim his place he clearly isn't that keen.
You can talk about formations and tactics but I think it's clearly a case that these players aren't being coached correctly. They are uncomfortable on the ball and rarely put a forward pass on. They're not bad players.
In my view another manager could have a real go with this side. But admittedly it won't happen because we clearly don't have the money to put PP on gardening leave.
Apparently though a load of clubs would be interested in PP and were lucky so maybe one of them will make us an offer and we can try someone else.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2018 10:43:56 GMT
I’d still take Steve Bruce who must surely be one defeat from the bullet down at Villa Park
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2018 13:25:56 GMT
I would have thought anyone who wants to play football and not hoof and hope would be worth a shout. I don't go to the home games much now but I will be at Ipswich on Saturday work permitting. The Reemac experience doesn't turn me on anymore. Is it me or will PP never change the way he sees football played. ☺☺
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Sept 16, 2018 15:19:16 GMT
Steve Bruce needs money to spend and still failed at Villa, Kevin Nolan not ready yet, Mick MacCarthy is useless. Step up David Lee !!
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Post by OohMac on Sept 16, 2018 15:43:39 GMT
My top targets are Mark Warburton and Paul Heckingbotham. Don't think you could label them unrealistic and think they would both try and play the game.
I'm not saying that a new man will turn this lot into top 6 playing one touch football but we could win and play well. It should not be one or the other.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 16, 2018 22:13:10 GMT
What about David Moyes!!!! He must have amassed over £12m in his bank JUST from severance payments from Urinals, R Sociedad, Sunderland and Wet Spam, he wouldn’t be coming here for the money and he would handle our Championship side with the players we currently have on our books!! Could be a bit boring from time to time as his football was a built dull here and there but at least it was ‘football’ in the attacking sense of the word and not all hoof That said, we’ll no doubt just stick with the tried and failed PP until it’s too late!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 17, 2018 10:04:17 GMT
Personally I'd go with OM's Warburton or Heckingbottom but let's face it, as long as Anderson's here Parky's here. He'd never get anybody else to be as subservient and accommodating as Parky and we know he isn't really interested in our league position or future, just hoping for a quick buck, sell on and head for the hills. I'm just hoping that now the BM loan and catering situation is resolved it may hasten his exit but nothing looks imminent so we'll sadly just have to suffer Parky a piece longer yet.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 17, 2018 13:41:46 GMT
Personally I'd go with OM's Warburton or Heckingbottom but let's face it, as long as Anderson's here Parky's here. He'd never get anybody else to be as subservient and accommodating as Parky and we know he isn't really interested in our league position or future, just hoping for a quick buck, sell on and head for the hills. I'm just hoping that now the BM loan and catering situation is resolved it may hasten his exit but nothing looks imminent so we'll sadly just have to suffer Parky a piece longer yet. To be honest W63, I think administration was the only way I could see PP going and if it came down to Parkys football or admin erm🤔🤔🤔!!!!!!!!!
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Post by OohMac on Sept 17, 2018 15:39:49 GMT
You could take some comfort in the fact that both ourselves and Rotherham were absolutely shocking when we were relegated from the championship and both made an immediate return, and came back stronger. So the administration plus new owner with deeper pockets, new management and vision may not have been the end of the world. We may not have even be relegated.
If Parky is to stay, and be obviously is. He needs to be work on the training ground in particular with the midfielders. Obviously defence has been poor, Grounds especially but they are individual mistakes that we can eliminate but for us to improve we need.
I would say that if were to play up front which we are and which theres nothing wrong with, we need to make sure the 5 behind can get to support as well as defend. 3 defensive midfielders and ineffective wide men just won't work.
Personally I'd say the season starts again, I would work with the 10 candidates Lowe, Murphy, O'Neil, Vela, Williams, Noone, Buckley, Wildschut, Ameobi,Oztuner and from then find the 5 that work. That click that can compliment and understand each other and that can get from one of the pitch to the other.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 17, 2018 18:37:39 GMT
There are any number of things we could try OM, in fact should try, isn't that the point of training? Sadly it's all completely lost on Parkinson who just doesn't seem to have any intention or concept of changing anything. Sadly we're stuck with him for the duration. Like rftr says, maybe putting the club in admin would have been preferable, clearing the decks completely and maybe enticing this muted US billionaire. Still, that's water under the bridge now and we're stuck with what we've got so no good thinking that way. You would though like to think that without the BM situation and catering sorted we would make a reasonably attractive proposition for someone looking to buy into a state of the art outfit like Wanderers. Let's hope so anyway because that's the only way we'll get rid of Mr 30%.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 17, 2018 20:00:07 GMT
Last season I definitely would agree that clearing the decks was needed. This season I think the squad is capable of survival at the minimum.
We have a couple of weak links definitely but every club does. Our team now is pretty solid and with the right coaching we could be...well let's not get carried away, mid table.
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