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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 6, 2018 21:28:49 GMT
I’ve only really set this up because I’m bored of reading the same old usual repeated barrel scraping, worthless BN news threads about the Wanderers and also to throw it out there for a logical response to this question!!! Why?  If we all believe that we invented football, we have the best leagues in world football, have the richest owners and the richest club blah blah blah and yet Italy, Germany, France and Brazil have all hosted the World Cup TWICE whilst we, EN-GER-LAND have only hosted it once like the US of A I ask you USA??? Back in 94 they didnt really give a shit about the sport they call ‘saccer’ (that’s soccer in American speak) and yet they still managed to host it!!! On the actual World Cup, I also ask where you all think England can go in the tournament?? I think we have flattered to deceive with the friendlies and warm up games but I still believe we have enough to get us to the quarter finals as I’m not convinced we have a decent back line and a dodgy Jordan Pickford between the sticks. If Spain and Germany avoid each other I do fancy them for the final. So what say you?? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 6, 2018 22:47:30 GMT
Like you rftr, I'm totally bored with the BN articles at the moment, it's just frustrating every day waiting for some serious pieces. Even a bit on season ticket progress would be preferable. Are people buying or not buying and let's have some dialogue about why. Anyway, surely something serious has to come out soon?
As for the World Cup, I'm always confident with England, fool that I am, but I do think this time we do have a chance to do well, with what seems a younger, fresher group. I wasn't convinced with Southgate originally but he seems to be doing a good job so far so it will be at least interesting to see how they fare. At least we don't have to suffer the Rooney's, Bechams, Terry's' and Gerrard's who so spectacularly underperform internationally. Im sure the players there this time will at least look interested in playing for their country instead of it seeming to interfere with their Premier League paydays. I think quarter finals is about right, we may just be a little light for any further but I suppose after the Iceland debacle, we shouldn't take anything for granted!!!
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Post by OohMac on Jun 10, 2018 19:47:38 GMT
I find it quite funny that England fans can see low expectation as a positive.
I also have some sympathy for the "golden generation" because although they fell short they were never really outclassed. They had a few hard luck stories too.
As for hosting the event I think our reputation in the 70s and 80s put a stop to that and apart from vuvuzelas ive enjoyed the game going around the globe. Really enjoyed beating Argentina having a few beers and still having time for a McMuffin afterwards.
I would never go to Russia but do think the contest will be fine and that a lot of it is Daily Mail hype.
I think that this crop are a little bit too methodical. No real rawness to them. They're all a bit too media trained and a bit too 'stepford wife'. Like a new housing estate, all ok and nice enough but little character. Easy to like, hard to love.
The best teams usually win the World Cup, it rarely has a shock winner. And we are not one of the best teams.
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Post by westandlower on Jun 10, 2018 20:09:34 GMT
The squad seems pretty grounded and without the big egos like Beckham and Rooney. There doesn't seem to be the media hype that surrounded the last few World Cups and virtually nothing on Wags (although I don't read the Sun, Star or Mirror). I think we'll get out of the group ok but then it's pot luck whether we'll win any knockout games. Just hope that when we do lose, that it's not to a hand of god, bad refereeing decision, the players failing to turn up, opposition goalie have the best game of his life, opposition player diving or on penalties - all of which give the media and fans an excuse to moan about. If we give each game an honest go, score a few goals and don't make any bad choices, I'll be happy (prefer not to go out the Germans or French tho).
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 11, 2018 15:03:46 GMT
The squad seems pretty grounded and without the big egos like Beckham and Rooney. There doesn't seem to be the media hype that surrounded the last few World Cups and virtually nothing on Wags (although I don't read the Sun, Star or Mirror). I think we'll get out of the group ok but then it's pot luck whether we'll win any knockout games. Just hope that when we do lose, that it's not to a hand of god, bad refereeing decision, the players failing to turn up, opposition goalie have the best game of his life, opposition player diving or on penalties - all of which give the media and fans an excuse to moan about. If we give each game an honest go, score a few goals and don't make any bad choices, I'll be happy (prefer not to go out the Germans or French tho). Crikey Westy, most games are settled by one or other of those so you're not leaving much left there to decide a game!! Like you though, I'd just like to see the best team win but these days that's rarely the case. On the other hand, I really want England to win and with so many players being unknown quantities, who knows what could happen? I always think of stellios' Greece in the Euros when they were far from the best team on paper, yet ended up Champions. To win anything you need a little luck and I can certainly say we're due some after the last few World Cups. Good luck anyway to the Three Lions and let's just hope whatever happens our boys do us proud. |
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Post by westandlower on Jun 11, 2018 15:34:22 GMT
The squad seems pretty grounded and without the big egos like Beckham and Rooney. There doesn't seem to be the media hype that surrounded the last few World Cups and virtually nothing on Wags (although I don't read the Sun, Star or Mirror). I think we'll get out of the group ok but then it's pot luck whether we'll win any knockout games. Just hope that when we do lose, that it's not to a hand of god, bad refereeing decision, the players failing to turn up, opposition goalie have the best game of his life, opposition player diving or on penalties - all of which give the media and fans an excuse to moan about. If we give each game an honest go, score a few goals and don't make any bad choices, I'll be happy (prefer not to go out the Germans or French tho). Crikey Westy, most games are settled by one or other of those so you're not leaving much left there to decide a game!! Like you though, I'd just like to see the best team win but these days that's rarely the case. On the other hand, I really want England to win and with so many players being unknown quantities, who knows what could happen? I always think of stellios' Greece in the Euros when they were far from the best team on paper, yet ended up Champions. To win anything you need a little luck and I can certainly say we're due some after the last few World Cups. Good luck anyway to the Three Lions and let's just hope whatever happens our boys do us proud. Just meant that I hope matches are settled by positive play. |
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Post by OohMac on Jun 13, 2018 15:15:24 GMT
What a stroke of luck for Ex-wanderers legend, Fernando Hierro, who also featured for Real Madrid in his youth who takes charge of Spain 2 days before they kick off.
Why on earth the Spain manager didn't tell Madrid not to announce the appointment until after the tournament is beyond me. But a golden chance to really enhance his reputation as a manager and Spanish legend. There won't be much management even needed. Just pick 11 and let them do it all, they pretty much know what they need to do.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 16, 2018 18:08:01 GMT
Crikey Westy, most games are settled by one or other of those so you're not leaving much left there to decide a game!! Like you though, I'd just like to see the best team win but these days that's rarely the case. On the other hand, I really want England to win and with so many players being unknown quantities, who knows what could happen? I always think of stellios' Greece in the Euros when they were far from the best team on paper, yet ended up Champions. To win anything you need a little luck and I can certainly say we're due some after the last few World Cups. Good luck anyway to the Three Lions and let's just hope whatever happens our boys do us proud. Just meant that I hope matches are settled by positive play. Well you couldn't get more positive than how last nights Spain v Portugal game was settled Westy. What a match, absolutely fabulous and about as far away from Parky's rubbish as it's possible to get. Felt a little sorry for Fernando but the shot of Costa dipping his head when it went in made up for it. All I can say is, it's going to have to be some team to beat Spain. |
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Post by OohMac on Jun 17, 2018 7:08:19 GMT
Ive been quite impressed with the spirit the games been played in. All I heard in the run up, mainly talkSPORT, was these teams will sit with a back 5 and keep it tight. They'll be hard to beat. Of course Australia and Iceland are not going to go and match France and Argentina but it was far from parking the bus. Peru on their first game back showed great attacking intent. If the goals keep coming this tournament could be a bit special.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 17, 2018 19:17:40 GMT
Ive been quite impressed with the spirit the games been played in. All I heard in the run up, mainly talkSPORT, was these teams will sit with a back 5 and keep it tight. They'll be hard to beat. Of course Australia and Iceland are not going to go and match France and Argentina but it was far from parking the bus. Peru on their first game back showed great attacking intent. If the goals keep coming this tournament could be a bit special. And as if to confirm that OM, Mexico beating Germany just proves it. Terrific counter attacking and a super goal to win it. Now could the unthinkable happen and Germany go out in the group stages? Oh yes please God. |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 23, 2018 23:42:16 GMT
It’s looking highly likely that we’ll face either Japan or Senegal in the last round of 16 ‘iF’ we beat Panama!!!
Panama??? Where even is Panama??
Don’t care... if we do beat Belgium, we top the group but like I say, it’s either Japan or Senegal who look decent going forward. it’s setting us up for a possible shoe horn into the quarter finals and then who knows where we could end up??
The ‘big hitters’ could be facing each other
Brazil v the very lucky Germany
France v Nigeria
Denmark v Croatia
Russia v Portugal
Uruguay v Spain
There could be our biggest ever chance to finally do something in this competition and it could all be down to Big Sams dodgy meetings pointing the way for Gareth Southgate to be the next Alf Ramsey!!!
Who am I kidding 🤔
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 24, 2018 10:10:55 GMT
Who knows rftr? I had to laugh at your "the very lucky Germany" quote though. When we're Germany ever not lucky?
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Post by OohMac on Jun 25, 2018 8:34:50 GMT
Who knows rftr? I had to laugh at your "the very lucky Germany" quote though. When we're Germany ever not lucky? 1920's? Fair play to Southgate. Like Coleman with Wales proving that for this job you don't need to be that tactical (you're not teaching them how to play or changing the way they play) but Southgate has said when I was in the squad I didn't like x,y and z so were not doing that. Is charm offensive on the media has been impressive and hit ditching the old guard has been professional. It's fair to say that I am very pleased with Gareth, who I did think was a FA yes man, and the squad who I think are the most likeable set of players we've had. Can we go all the way? Doubtful. History says the world cup is won by the bookies favourites. Brazil,Germany France and Spain still in it and deep down we've not the players to match but we can at least enjoy Thursday night and then 16 teams left, let's do a delia "where are you?Let's be having you" |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 25, 2018 9:58:10 GMT
He’s not even a ‘Bovril’ is our Gareth!!!
I mean, you can’t even say love him or hate him, he’s just.... Gareth!!!
You don’t see Gareth scratching his arse and smelling his fingers!! Sorry, that’s an awful start to a Monday😞 someone sent me the vid on WhatsApp of Joachim Lowe😬😬😬 wish they hadn’t!!
But as fans, we kind of go for a big name as we think that is what the England job should be, but so far he has something brewing that we’ve not had in ages, probably down to the fact that we have had managers that stick with the old tried and tested only to be let down.
These ‘kids’ look like they have the hunger for this and although it was only Panama have proven that they can adapt and play a winning system.
Permutations are to now to include Columbia as our possible group of 16 game and I have to say, I’d prefer Japan or Senegal as they both have terrible defences
Let’s see COY 🏴 🏴🏴🏴
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Post by OohMac on Jun 25, 2018 17:01:39 GMT
He’s not even a ‘Bovril’ is our Gareth!!! I mean, you can’t even say love him or hate him, You mean Marmite, every northener should love bovril. Fact is if Southgate left now he wouldn't get a top 10 club, be will probably be Palaces next manager when Hodgson leaves. |
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