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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 31, 2017 9:04:45 GMT
I had to wait until this morning to post just in case I'd been dreaming after yesterday's performance.that was I think, the best Wanderers have played under PP. not saying it was perfect and I still didn't like the sitting back again in the second half. I do though hope Parky saw how much better the team looked with Alf alongside Madine. I don't know if it was due to contracts ending but our loaners Cullen, Burke and Robinson were superb. Cullen showed all his ability running and chasing down in midfield whilst Robinson tore their left side to pieces. It wouldn't be fair though not to mention the exemplary performance of Madine who totally dominated their centre halves and was a pillar in defence. If only he could play like that all the time and the goal was the cherry on top. Three fabulous saves by the faultless Alnwick kept us in the game and Pratley, playing slightly further forward I thought, looked highly impressive. Wheater and Beevers were immense at the back and won almost everything both in the air and on the ground. Parky obviously wouldn't have played this team if it hadn't been for injuries and we completely surrendered the game in the second half when we sat back deeply again which for me was the only negative but it would be churlish to criticise anything about yesterday's game. Even my United mates agreed we were the better team and deserved to win so that's good enough for me. I'm not as good as Andy and David at giving the players individual points so I'm just going to give the combined team a very well deserved 10.
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Post by joanna on Dec 31, 2017 11:06:30 GMT
Great to see that you were able to write such a positive judgement, WS63. Your best-ever post to go with our best performance of the season, though I don't agree with you about Alf who didn't really feature much at all. Could have had anyone up there to allow Madine to flourish, as he did. Better formation and intent, though.
Madine was immense. Two snags: one is that if he doesn't score, I'm not sure who else is going to do so in sufficient numbers.
The other is that we (and PP?) would presumably want to keep the same side and formation for a while....but who amongst us would have opted to leave out two of our better players in Ameobi and Vela? It will be tempting to bring one or both back, but there will be scope to do that if we put more emphasis in resting players looking weary or temporarily out of form. Identifying particular weaknesses in the opposition full backs might also allow Ameobi to be selected again.
I think Alnwick has received undue criticism recently, so it was great for him to put in a display that no one could find fault with. I presume he punts downfield a lot because our defenders can't be relied on to play out from the back successfully....and because Madine is usually dominant in the air.....but needs someone alongside him for the flick-ons, not necessarily Alf, but perhaps the mobile Vela who also has an eye for goal.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 11:26:36 GMT
Got up this morning with a thick head after plenty of Berliner kindle to celebrate a great win well done to all including Madine let's hope he and the team can carry on like this and get us up the table. Happy new year to all 😀🍺🍺🍺🍺
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 31, 2017 12:18:03 GMT
Just a couple of negatives for me joanna, typical that our best performance didn’t improve our league position due to Brum and Sunderland winning and Burton collecting a point and not wishing to take any gloss of the win and the performance of all, but come on, if Madine cannot raise his game against the team and fans that positively hate him due to his Wednesday connections, then we’ll never see the best out of him.
I expect the same team to go out on Monday and avenge that drubbing Hull gave us early season. I’m hoping that the SU result yesterday is a message to all the teams that took us apart so easily early in the season and that we’re on a mission to avenge all of those defeats and show that we’re not going down without a fight so COYWM Let’s do this👍🏼👍🏼
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Post by OohMac on Dec 31, 2017 13:57:02 GMT
1-0......madine from le fondre....commentator says you wont see a better goal this season,bolton playing football at last/should of had a pen...etc etc Listened to game on Tower FM. Sounded much better. Sounds like someones enjoying his new xmas gift, DAB radio? Positives a plenty. Clean sheet. Away win! 2 wins in 3 against title chasers, form is more play off than relegation. Madine exorcising the demons from last season and even a place on the bench for a youth team member(albeit an unused keeper). No real negatives but why does it take an injury or two for Phil to actually think "who are the opponents, how do they play, where can we get glory, where will we struggle?" and why now use Burke, Cullen and ALF? For me, (no UEFA badges mind) I would approach every game with a blank canvas. Parkinson has his team set in stone and only injury will change that. Highlighted when we played Burton and he came out and said they will sit back and still played a solo striker and two holding midfielder players. Well done Bolton. Well done Parkinson keep up with this horses for courses approach and we may stay up, find a buyer, and then who knows. Back to Munich in two years. P.S Sorry just through of another negative. £30 for a ticket for Hull. What a chance for those extra 10,000 fans he craves to come. Even for one game! A proper 6 pointer, a bank holiday fixture. Chance for 25,000 to all come and spend £££ at the club shop, bar, whites hotel but many will be put off by that frankly ridiculous price.
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 31, 2017 14:12:48 GMT
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 31, 2017 16:57:12 GMT
Great to see that you were able to write such a positive judgement, WS63. Your best-ever post to go with our best performance of the season, though I don't agree with you about Alf who didn't really feature much at all. Could have had anyone up there to allow Madine to flourish, as he did. Better formation and intent, though. Madine was immense. Two snags: one is that if he doesn't score, I'm not sure who else is going to do so in sufficient numbers. The other is that we (and PP?) would presumably want to keep the same side and formation for a while....but who amongst us would have opted to leave out two of our better players in Ameobi and Vela? It will be tempting to bring one or both back, but there will be scope to do that if we put more emphasis in resting players looking weary or temporarily out of form. Identifying particular weaknesses in the opposition full backs might also allow Ameobi to be selected again. I think Alnwick has received undue criticism recently, so it was great for him to put in a display that no one could find fault with. I presume he punts downfield a lot because our defenders can't be relied on to play out from the back successfully....and because Madine is usually dominant in the air.....but needs someone alongside him for the flick-ons, not necessarily Alf, but perhaps the mobile Vela who also has an eye for goal. Thanks Joanna and I do try to be positive whenever I can. I have found it difficult under PP with his own overly negative teams and systems. I'm sorry and also somewhat surprised though at your criticism of Alf yesterday because I thought he was excellent supporting Madine and drawing players away from him. At least he did for the first 30-35 minutes where we totally dominated United until Parky reverted to type and had the team sitting back deep. I agree with you after that and for the whole of the second half he lost effectiveness but only because of the system. Maybe that's where I agree with Parky, Alfie is wasted in an overly defensive, thou shalt not attack system preferred by PP. The same however could be said of Curren who was terrific in that early spell but much less so once defending. I'd like to think that yesterday's team and performance sparked something in Parky's attitude and he doesn't revert to type tomorrow. Like you I'd love to see the same side with Ameobi and Vela there to bring on later although I'd have no problem with Ameobi replacing Morais to start if necessary. Anyway, whatever he does, can I wish you a very happy new year Joanna and hope that we can share more positivity in 2018 than perhaps we have this year?? 🤗
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