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Post by Pedro on Dec 16, 2017 22:27:51 GMT
Disgrace.
They "wanted it" way more than we did and we were out passed and outclassed yet again. We started well and in my mind they should only be paid for the first 10 minutes. After that we looked like a team at the bottom of League 1, never mind the Chumpionship.
Stats from the BBC
Possession Home68% Away32%
Shots Home15 Away9
Shots on Target Home4 Away4
Corners Home8 Away3
Fouls Home13 Away13
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Post by andyl on Dec 17, 2017 7:07:50 GMT
The problems we seem to have were epitomised when Madine took those two 25 yard free kicks and tamely hit both into the feet of the wall. How come he has such a dominant position in the team? Everything is punted to him and very little comes from it.
And then we had Alnwick v Bywater. Early on Bywater comfortably smothered a mishit but on target Buckley shot but Alnwick somehow missed Dyer's similar effort. It was also mentioned to me on the way home that another contrast was between Bywater's low flat accurate kicking and Alnwick's ballooning punts- so easy to defend.
This though was a very different game than all preceding. We had the ball for much of it and after they scored had to show creativity and inventiveness against a packed defence. We were never going to have much chance playing as we do without midfield and strikers. We had much more chance of winning at Forest and I suspect we'll have more chances v Cardiff. Here Ameobi and Buckley nothwithstanding we lacked the class to triumph.
At half time it had to be obvious that we needed to change things and that for this game we didn't need both Pratley and Henry. Also we didn't really need Darby who offered nothing going forward and wasn't really needed defensively. Urgent action might have saved the day. I wanted to see Wilbaham and Madine in harness with Vela off and Cullen on.Clutching at straws perhaps.
More generally we face an intense Christmas period and must use our squad. The current incumbents are getting stale not least Henry who came from not playing, steadied the ship, anchored Pratley but has now faded. Karacan, Derik and Le Fondre and Cullen are better available players and whatever myopic gaze has sidelined them needs to have its cataracts removed. Team shape should be built on players's strengths and not the paradigm around which players have to perform whether up to its demands or not.
I am beginning to think that only managerial change or injury to Madine can save us but at the same time under current tactics we cannot function without Madine so maybe both are needed. Its a simple equation: hoofing to Madine = relegation so if he plays most of the remaining games we will be relegated as we were two years ago
Alnwick 2 Darby 1 Wheater 4 Beevers 4 Pratley 2 Henry 3 Vela 4 Ameobi 7 Buckley 6 Madine 5 Robinson 5
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Post by OohMac on Dec 17, 2017 8:28:55 GMT
Anyone whose seen my previous predictions won't be too alarmed when I say this but I got a bad feeling about this! Today's game is probably a handful of games this season where we would "expect" to win. Or at least fancy our chances. If we hand picked 3 points this season then we would be looking at home games against Millwall, Barnsley, Burton at the start of the season. In fairness to Parky he got the win at Barnsley and there was positives. Attacking full backs being one. Can see us going behind and struggling to make a dent. 0-1. I'd be angry but I saw that coming. Someone mentioned about putting a defender in front and behind of Madine. I don't think there's any need. I remember comment from the villa match that said John Terry not competing with headers happy to let Madine win them because his flick ons go nowhere. 3 points from these 3 games is simply not good enough. Po has to be the least ambitious, league one manager we have ever had. Please Ken let me know if you expect 20,000 at £28 a time watching that rubbish. Let's hope that the other clubs scouts are not willing to pay the admission cost because anyone can see Vela and Madine are worth £2.5m for the pair and they are our prized assets. Oh and Connor Hall! Is he the real deal? Is he going to be a Bolton great? No idea but why are we starting with the washing machine and only Wilbraham as an option.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 17, 2017 10:19:59 GMT
Well at least I didn't have to eat my hat after these three games, let alone chip's too!! 😏
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 17, 2017 12:16:57 GMT
I was out in my works Christmas do yesterday and so couldn’t go and yes, I was miserable until I’d got a few down me later in the eve. I, like OooM had a bad feeling about this but I just knew we’d get a point at the very least!!! Of course, my punditry skills are not as ‘on the money’ as OooM’s as he did predict it right at 0-1 What a truly awful result that was. That was really like going back to the Phil Neal days of football. We all know that whilst KA is the chairman, Phil Parkinson will not be leaving our club and he will take us down as KA will believe we have the best manager in League 1!! I’m so lost for words after that result I just don’t feel any point to saying anything else 😥😥
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 17, 2017 12:55:34 GMT
One final thing, Tony Pulis would organise these same players far better than Parkinson can and the money PP will waste (what little we have of it) in the Jan transfer window, would be much better given as Pulis’s salary and bonus for keeping us up. Just give him a 6 month contract and we’d stay uo, I’m convinced. Parkinson is not the future, never was
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 17, 2017 14:44:02 GMT
I totally agree rftr, one or two of us have also made that point on the BEN threads. It's been proved many times that a "quality" new manager can make all the difference just look at Rotherham with Warnock as a recent example or even Sunderland with BSA. Why is it that people feel we have to stick with an obviously out of his depth manager when others could do better. It's pretty clear Vela is going and if a few more need to as well to raise the cash it would be money very well spent for the longer term good of the club. I actually feel sorry for Parky. He's a nice and genuine bloke but there's nothing wrong in accepting that you're at a level above your capability. Move down a notch and you can restore your reputation but stick it out and you will have another Championship relegation on your CV.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 17, 2017 15:43:43 GMT
I totally agree rftr, one or two of us have also made that point on the BEN threads. It's been proved many times that a "quality" new manager can make all the difference just look at Rotherham with Warnock as a recent example or even Sunderland with BSA. Why is it that people feel we have to stick with an obviously out of his depth manager when others could do better. It's pretty clear Vela is going and if a few more need to as well to raise the cash it would be money very well spent for the longer term good of the club. I actually feel sorry for Parky. He's a nice and genuine bloke but there's nothing wrong in accepting that you're at a level above your capability. Move down a notch and you can restore your reputation but stick it out and you will have another Championship relegation on your CV. If Vela has any value, I’m guessing he didn’t add to his stock yesterday W63 Maybe we as fans are going about it all the wrong way!!! Parkinson will do things the Parkinson way unless KA steps in and stops him, happen we should be going for the jugular and asking for Ken to go!! If the power of the supporters voice is acerbic enough, it might be that Ken sees his time is up. New owners, new manager, simples
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