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Wolves
Nov 25, 2017 18:54:11 GMT
Post by wots on Nov 25, 2017 18:54:11 GMT
I'm not quite sure what you guys want. When we were promoted, most said that we would finish in the bottom three, or just above it, thus back to League 1.
We were beaten by a club that has spent millions more than us. Did we spend anything? Loans are our only way and why do you think they are on loan?
Parkinson has just lost an unbeaten run to the leaders of the division. Same as any other team in the Prem losing to City.
For me Parkinson has had a new contract based on the understanding that he will do things as cheaply as possible, so's KA has not to support the club out of his own pocket. The club is up for sale and KA is no different to an administrator, difference being he will he get someone to line his pocket and they pick up the never ending debt. He can only do this for so long before we all face reality; the club is broke/no money/nada.
If we avoid relegation, fine, but you can almost see the "mini" league forming. How far do we look up?
Relegation is inevitable. Anything more is a bonus (I wish).
You'll only moan more if we fire PP, which we can't afford and the replacement doesn't perform a miracle.
COYW
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Wolves
Nov 25, 2017 19:07:07 GMT
Post by davidm on Nov 25, 2017 19:07:07 GMT
I'm not quite sure what you guys want. I'll tell you what I want - I want some form of entertainment! Football is part of the entertainment industry. Our style of football is dire. Ken Anderson wants bigger crowds. This manager is killing us and will drive the fans away as Megson and Freedman did. And why is relegation inevitable? We have enough skill in this squad to be well away from the bottom 3 if the tactics are improved.
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Nov 25, 2017 19:13:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2017 19:13:49 GMT
We hear what you're saying mate but as it stands we are what we are a very poor championship/div1 side who are trying there best with a manager who just wants to defend and hump it up front and hope for the best COYWM. It will be a long time before we can play some good football and maybe win a few games but as true fans we will keep waiting until it gets better 😀😀
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Post by andyl on Nov 25, 2017 19:15:16 GMT
I'm afraid that our sterile formation caught up with us today against a very impressive team who outclassed us. We began with an identical first minute to Tuesday. Vela dispossessed the keeper and yet could not find Madine. It was easier than Tuesday to score. We had two half decent Madine headers but the got a lesson. Long passes to two flank raiders undid us every time. They scored from a corner.Then Alnwick had a rush of blood and charged out for a through ball ending well short, lobbed rounded and humiliated. They had a penalty. Alnwick kicked a fourth to them and a long ball from the keeper cleared Henry and one on one the striker scored outpacing all defenders Buckley capitalised on more casual defence put in by Madine.
The managers were despatched to the stand in the first half. I thought the referee was excellent.
Sadly 25_35 % possession week in week out exhausts. Pratley really struggled and his passing was awful
Madine had a much better game but is just too slow to provide a threat. Armstrong and Le Fondre were again sidelined.
Noone and Buckley were bright but overall we aren't in their class. That said four goals were gifts
Alnwick 3 Little 4 Webster 4 Beevers 4 Robinson 6 Pratley 2 Henry 4 Madine 6 Vela 4 Ameobi 5
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Wolves
Nov 25, 2017 19:19:49 GMT
Post by OohMac on Nov 25, 2017 19:19:49 GMT
"You'll only moan more if we fire PP, which we can't afford and the replacement doesn't perform a miracle."
I don't agree with this, but it does depend. If we brought in someone like Alan Irvine who wanted to just do the same old thing then yes I would agree that we would moan. However if we brought in a younger manager with fresh ideas and an ethos of trying to entertain and wanting to prove himself then I would say no we would allow him time.
I wouldn't say I'm glad we took a pasting today, but it has been coming and we have to look at ourselves now rather than hiding.
Of course they've spent millions and us buttons but thats not how football works. If it was then no one would bother watching. Huddersfield beat Man Utd, Burnley beat Chelsea at Bridge.
What should have happened last year was we went to league one. We get rid of as much of the deadwood and replace them with younger players, we bring our players through and we work on a system where we are comfortable on the ball and pass it. We learn lessons with defeats and the next season we are ready for the league. Ken though isn't playing the long game. He doesn't have the time. The clubs like a ticking time bomb. He gambles on short term fixes we sneak promotion not really playing with an identity.
If we do go down, Ken will be gone. He's not personally invested too much so his plan hasn't worked and he walks away. We go back into liquidation and the real trouble starts.
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Wolves
Nov 25, 2017 19:26:15 GMT
Post by davidm on Nov 25, 2017 19:26:15 GMT
I'm not quite sure what you guys want. I'll tell you what I want - I want some form of entertainment! Also what I want is more than 2 wins out of 19 matches.
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Wolves
Nov 25, 2017 19:36:20 GMT
Post by OohMac on Nov 25, 2017 19:36:20 GMT
Was there any silver linings today? (Injuries and suspensions, particularly to Captain Fantastic and the washing machine)
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Wolves
Nov 26, 2017 9:57:15 GMT
Post by greydad on Nov 26, 2017 9:57:15 GMT
I think most fans appreciate last season's achievement,if not the actual style of play for quite a number of games, and also the continuing difficulties under which the manager and staff have to work in a challenging league, but my main concern is whether or not the squad is being utilised to it's best effect...I'm not sure if fans will ever get to see whether or not Armstrong and ALF could form an effective partnership, or if Derik could be utilised in a position that makes the most of his abilities as a holding midfielder who can actually pass the ball progressively out of defence. If the team continues to cede possession and rely on hitting teams on the break then the ball must be moved not just quickly from defence but more accurately...as evidenced last Tuesday when Alnwick threw the ball quickly to Ameobi on the halfway line, who then used his skills to make good progress and win a foul from which a goal was created. Wolves are possibly going to achieve promotion with some ease and were always likely to prove too strong but 6 points have been squandered in the past few weeks which served to render the unbeaten run far less effective than it should have been ...relegation might seem probable, but should it really be seen as inevitable?
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Nov 26, 2017 10:02:43 GMT
Post by whitesince63 on Nov 26, 2017 10:02:43 GMT
It's a rather sad state of affairs OM when we have to be pleased our team captain and main striker are injured so they won't be playing! Doesn't that illustrate the complete mess that Anderson has us in where he continues to support the man responsible for inflicting upon us the most boring, unattractive and unproductive football it has been my misfortune to watch in nearly 60 years as a White? He gave him the contract extension, which he must surely now accept was a mistake, but should now do the right thing for both the club and Parkinson's health, bite the bullet and remove him. I agree, a bright new manager, positive, focussed on our youth must be a priority.
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Wolves
Nov 26, 2017 12:39:37 GMT
Post by OohMac on Nov 26, 2017 12:39:37 GMT
I don't lay any blame on Ken to be honest 63. Left back in a problem area and we are forced to play a young lad who is probably not the type for a battle but apart from that Parky has options - multiple options in some positions and he is still persevering with a handful of players.
I could be wrong but I think anyone walking in to the club with fresh eyes would say Pratley isn't doing it, we're not getting the benefit of a target man because theres no link up play. Out of interest how many people would have moaned if we'd have singed Leon Clarke? Look at Millwall this season, too. If Parkinson is the miracle man what is Neil Harris? Never mind Chris Wilder. Wagner?
There will always be a team in this league who over achieve. Could be us, think Parky is a big obstacle stopping us. He's no ambition, too league one minded.
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Wolves
Nov 26, 2017 18:41:44 GMT
Post by Pedro on Nov 26, 2017 18:41:44 GMT
I'll tell you what I want - I want some form of entertainment! Also what I want is more than 2 wins out of 19 matches. That is what makes League one far more enjoyable!
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Wolves
Nov 26, 2017 18:52:33 GMT
Post by Pedro on Nov 26, 2017 18:52:33 GMT
Possession Home62%Away38% Shots Home15Away11 Shots on Target Home8Away5 Corners Home7Away4 Fouls Home17Away1 Just watched the extended highlights. 3 bad mistakes gave them 3 goals. Should have been 1-1 instead of 4-1 and then a 2-1 win would have looked respectable and we could even have pinched a draw. Bring in the keepers and goal scorers from the reserves and under 18's. What has he got to lose? Our present first team players are just not good enough. Why haven't their skills improved? Why can they not string a few passes together? Why do they all get the ball taken off them so easily? What the hell goes on at training? Please don't tell me they have gone back to playing ping pong
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Wolves
Nov 27, 2017 18:06:10 GMT
Post by westandlower on Nov 27, 2017 18:06:10 GMT
I went to the game. I don't think that mid field got off the coach.
Pretty much agree with Andyl's scoring of the players. I wouldn't have scored Robinson quite so high though. His starting position when they attacked was too far forward allowing too much space behind him in the corner. He did not always get back in time and had to be rescued by Beevers on occasion.
I'm a great believer in having flexible tactics and not playing the same way all game every game. Our out ball from Alnwick is high to Madine 99% of the time. It becomes too obvious and too easy to defend against and slows down the game while we but most importantly the opposition defenders get into position. We should try Ameobi playing a bit more narrow and aim the ball to him now and again either via a throw or kick. Ameobi gave up once we went 2 down and should have been subbed at half time or very soon after. He obviously realised it was a lost cause.
The players need to be concentrating all the time and looking for a quick opportunity for a break or passing to someone who is not marked. There were a couple of occasions where our players were dead set on playing the usual ball and missed opportunities to pass to someone who was unmarked.
Wolves were good. They attacked with 4 sometimes 5 players in a line across the pitch. They were quick and only Robinson had the pace to keep up (most of the time). They were stronger in the tackle and fitter.
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