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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 12, 2017 13:41:47 GMT
Criminal convictions[edit]
Madine has been convicted of several assaults. In November 2010 he was found guilty of causing actual bodily harm after attacking a man in a pub and sentenced to community service involving 250 hours of unpaid work. He was also ordered to pay £1,500 compensation to his victim and £1,800 in costs.[68] In October 2013 he was jailed for 18 months after being found guilty of causing actual bodily harm and grievous bodily harm in two separate attacks.[69] Madine was released from jail on 20 February 2014 after serving 5 months of his 18-month sentence.[70].....NO SURPRISE THERE THEN !!!!!!!!....IS THERE??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:39:38 GMT
the story has been wiped in the Bolton news ,care to give us some details ?
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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 12, 2017 19:03:01 GMT
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Post by Pedro on Nov 13, 2017 18:39:50 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Nov 17, 2017 15:14:27 GMT
I'm in split minds over this one. On one case you could say no charges, no facts to base it on and GM returned to training without further drama so therefore case closed move on, Gary starts Friday night.
I've no qualms that footballers should be allowed a social life and with so much time off I don't think you could ask them to stay tea total if that's not how they live their lifestyle. Footballers will always be a target for "the character" in the pub or the meathead who wants to prove something. Gary needs to learn he cannot react at all. Not with his previous.
On the other hand I just think what message does it send for us to sweep this under the carpet? If I was ALF I would be completely annoyed at the moment. In footballing terms he probably feels annoyed that he's second fiddle to Madine who struggles to score and a loan player who may not even be here in a few weeks. Le Fondre was brought in to score, he did that. He was kept on in the summer. Now he's struggling to get any game time.
A lot of fans would have picked ALF ahead of Gary anyway. For Madine to come back in after shaming the club (after already being caught out at a pinnacle stage last season) would in my opinion set the wrong example. I would therefore be starting Le Fondre and letting Gary watch from the bench.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 17, 2017 15:16:13 GMT
*Having said that, Parky is still second bottom and still long way from safety so no doubt his reputation, employ-ability and security is on the line so if he thinks Gary is key in his plan then you have to give him the right to pick his team no matter what especially when no charges have stuck.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 17, 2017 21:53:13 GMT
Parky will always pick Madine ahead orAlff, whatever it takes, simply because it suits his Neanderthal system. Tonight, it was back to normal, outplayed again by a team devoid of confidence and missing many of their better players, including mainly in defence. Now does Parky adapt to that or just continue as normal? Silly question really because he doesn't have the knowledge to adapt and that is exactly why we will go down. Tonight just confirms everything I loathe about Parkinson and why he'll never be a manager above lower league level. Sadly we have a Chairman without the resources to change things so all in all, whatever else happens we're stuck with the three clowns Madine, Parkinson and Ken Anderson with all that brings. Pain.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 10, 2018 21:50:42 GMT
If we did sell Madine, and I would suggest that if an offer of £2M comes in we will, where does that leave Phil?
We all know his plan A is so reliant on Madine. We're also without his key cogs Pratley and Henry for a good while. We know he doesn't like to experiment. We couldn't win a game or even score for that matter without vela(though that doesn't seem to be a correlation). If Madine and Vela do go, £4M say, that keeps Bolton in business. I doubt that we will be reinvesting but Phil must surely be left wondering if he has the tools for the job. (His caveman club) and I can seriously see him walking.
I wouldn't want to lose Vela. Id prefer to put him where he can have an impact but under Parky he's not contributing as much as he ought to. I read someone say he plays a Frank Lampard role for us. (Possibly Iles) seem to remember Frank finding the new a few times and assisting in a couple more!
The last thing I want is to start Feb with them going and us playing Wilbraham and Buckley as replacements. Phil may feel the same and walk while he can still find another tole and avoid a relegation on his CV.
Could be the our relegation sealed however it may just be the catalyst for a new era.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 11, 2018 10:53:20 GMT
After being reassured by Ken about not selling players, I don't see how Parky could possibly have any credibility left if he stayed after they'd gone? To be honest though, I don't really care one way or the other. If they go Parky will just bring in another Luddite six footer to fit in with his Neanderthal hoof it system. Any replacement for Vela would be of lesser quality and worst of all it would also mean we are still stuck with Parkinson. The transfer window used to fill me with optimism but now I can hardly muster even a shred of interest and until Ken and Parky have gone I don't suppose It ever will.
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Post by davidm on Jan 13, 2018 13:24:33 GMT
Am I the only one who is indifferent to Madine possibly leaving?
In fact, if we can get Cardiff or Sunderland to offer silly money, I would be delighted to see him go.
Yes, he is our top scorer and is fundamental to our style of play.
A style of play that is deadly.
If we sell him, am I dreaming in hoping that we may play football on the floor? I hope that Wilbraham is not seen as a replacement.
In my opinion, Madine has been poor for 90% of his time at Bolton so let’s get the money that Mr Anderson is desperately after.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 13, 2018 16:25:46 GMT
DavidM and co. I'm not saying this would be better and this would be a sure fire way to lead us to milk and honey. But just imagine a parallel universe. Where Madine goes and out of protest parky walks. A young manager comes in and the line up next week.
turner. Little. Burke. Wheater. Robinson. Vela. Charlsey. henry. Ameobi. Hall. Buckley/noone.
A team full of youth with some experience there to lean on. They train passing a ball. Then try and beat the man with pace. They run into one half. They run back.
They get better. They improve.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 13, 2018 17:52:53 GMT
David, I'm indifferent to Madine too and like you see him as the master of our downfall with Parky's hoofball. Also like you OM, I'd love it if Madines sale would lead to Parky walking out. Sadly, I think though Madine will I believe go, I don't see Parky having the balls to leave and he'll just carry on with his Neanderthal systems whatever the personnel he has whilst blaming everything but himself for relegation. Yet again today, even with what on paper looked an attacking team he managed to revert them to type. I just can't see anything to be optimistic about frankly and expect a very disappointing second half to the season without that line up you dream of ever seeing the light of day.
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Post by one2many on Jan 14, 2018 18:40:22 GMT
6 million price tag set by the club and most posters on here would be pleased to see the back of him! Funny old game.....
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Post by OohMac on Jan 20, 2018 22:39:09 GMT
10 goals now and another star performance for our team.
Tongue in cheek question but after reports that Chelsea are in for Crouch 37 year old Stoke sub and anyone over 6ft2? Could they be coming in for the washing machine!
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Post by OohMac on Apr 6, 2018 21:39:36 GMT
Oh dear. Cardiff get a last minute penalty against Wolves to stop them effectively winning the league and up steps the 6 Million Dollar man. (Wrong currency and doubtful figure anyway) and fluffs his lines. (A minute later and Hoilett blasts one over. Reminded me of Ewood Park many moons ago)
Remember when Madine stepped up against Forest and placed a soft penalty right in the keepers reach. Rest of the season he played with his head down and was absolutely useless.
Madine is a confidence player. Needs to be the main man and I really think from now, if not before, the City fans will really start to wonder what they have signed.
Only came on after 70 mins too. And some are still saying we shouldn't have taken the money. Let's hope the incentives aren't reliant on Cardiffs promotion as I get the feeling Fulham will be on the case.
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