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Oct 19, 2017 18:27:05 GMT
Post by thegrud1 on Oct 19, 2017 18:27:05 GMT
Go on I,ll start it off.
If Vela and ameobi start a 2-0 win and our season starts !
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Oct 19, 2017 19:19:35 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 19, 2017 19:19:35 GMT
Saw the game v Fulham and they came to life in the last 8 minutes of added time and they were really going for it, could have got a second goal for the draw, BUT.... they got beat and at home so let’s NOT carry on where we left off v Sheff Wed or we’ll get hammered I’m afraid best we’ll get is a 1-1 draw sadly
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Oct 20, 2017 14:43:58 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Oct 20, 2017 14:43:58 GMT
Weeks ago I did target this game as the first win for the victory. That's not really to do with us sorting it out or even them being that bad. My decision was made really with Prejudice. In a Londonist. Or at least I'll always back Bolton on a cold wet and wild October day against a travelling team from the capital. Seen Spurs come with Berbatov, Modric, Van Der Vaart, and later Bale and get nothing. Fulham have brought thier big spenders and gone with nothing and I just think QPR on the road. We should really fancy that.
In the interest of fairness I would think at The Lane, Cottage and Loftus Road it would be heavy defeats for us.
Huge game for us. Back to back wins would really get the momentum going with Sunderland coming up. A loss would really take the wind from the sails and a draw may keep a slow momentum going but ultimately it wouldn't make the league table look too much brighter.
If I was a bookmaker I would just have fixed odds for championship games. 4/6 home side 6/4 away and ban anyone wanting draws. Fussy gets.
Great Win last week but I'm still slightly haunted by "what ifs" Alnwick doesn't get that strong left foot, the ref sees Wheaters clumsy challenge differently? Beevers didn't clear that one with his head? (Obviously Madine should have put us out of sight but still that game could have been turned) so I think an element of confidence will be back but I think going ahead, keeping it tight and coming away with a 2-0 is what we really need. So I'll go for that. But I wouldn't risk a pound on us getting a clean sheet.
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Oct 20, 2017 19:31:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 19:31:37 GMT
Good luck tomorrow lads hope for a win except a draw 3-2 would be great COYWM 😀
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Oct 21, 2017 9:40:53 GMT
Post by Alptrotter on Oct 21, 2017 9:40:53 GMT
I seem to have arrived for my my first home game of the season not only with a cracked windscreen, courtesy of a stone from a Dutch motorway, but also as Storm Brian is threatening to arrive. Maybe the conditions will affect the game. I'm hopeful of a victory, but I think Parky has some interesting decisions. Does he bring Karacan back, presumably for Pratley? What about Cullen to partner Henry? Does he perservere with Armstrong or start with Morais? What of Derick, Wilbraham and Buckley? For the first time, it looks like he has options. I, for one, am interested in what hand he'll play today.
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Oct 21, 2017 10:35:33 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 21, 2017 10:35:33 GMT
I seem to have arrived for my my first home game of the season not only with a cracked windscreen, courtesy of a stone from a Dutch motorway, but also as Storm Brian is threatening to arrive. Maybe the conditions will affect the game. I'm hopeful of a victory, but I think Parky has some interesting decisions. Does he bring Karacan back, presumably for Pratley? What about Cullen to partner Henry? Does he perservere with Armstrong or start with Morais? What of Derick, Wilbraham and Buckley? For the first time, it looks like he has options. I, for one, am interested in what hand he'll play today. And what oh what does he do with ALF? Strange one that!!
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Oct 21, 2017 11:03:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 11:03:12 GMT
Why not try Alf with Armstrong from the start and if needed bring the mighty Madine on 👍
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Oct 21, 2017 12:34:36 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Oct 21, 2017 12:34:36 GMT
I say you have to get the same 11 on the field just for the message that we know they can win a game go and do it again.
Personally would prefer to see Cullen or Karacan in for DP but I do think with the wind we may be better off picking the tallest 11 and see where that gets us. The midfield could be bypassed again today.
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Oct 21, 2017 14:44:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 14:44:47 GMT
Goooooooal it's our mate Pratley I knew he would come good 😊 😊😊😊
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Oct 21, 2017 16:02:30 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 21, 2017 16:02:30 GMT
35% possession at home!!!! That’s bloody awful for any team 1-1 I got right but ALF on at 84 mins, QPR defenders must be made up with that. Very disappointing result in my view but a points a point 😞
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Post by andyl on Oct 21, 2017 16:12:28 GMT
Goooooooal it's our mate Pratley I knew he would come good 😊 😊😊😊 O dear! Awful conditions yet a good battling effort in midfield. In truth we were second best throughout and barely passed a ball in the second half certainly not to our men. Alas our defenders lapsed into headless chicken mode and time after time wild clearances served only to start more waves of attacks. If only someone could have put his foot on the ball and played the ball as they did..but it proved impossible. Pratley epitomized our whole game- strong, determined, battling, pressurising- all good but did he do anything other than head it clumsily, lash at it or pass to them. He wasn't alone. No one's misplaced pass cost the game but any one of several could have. They weren't good but better than us. If only we had a centre forward. Our goal followed a good save denying Armstrong. There's a bit of hope that Armstrong could score But none really for Madine and what's happened to postman Morals? Alnwick 7 Little 6 Wheater 7 Beevers 7 Taylor 6 Ameobi 6 Pratley 6 Henry 7 Armstrong6 Madine5
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Oct 21, 2017 16:39:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:39:18 GMT
If it was the other way around it would be not to bad i.e. Beat QPR draw against Sheffield Wednesday god how much do we need a striker to get some goals 😢
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Oct 21, 2017 17:26:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 17:26:52 GMT
Unfortunately that's the way it's going to be for now defend until we score then pray for a clean sheet and don't get me started on Alf seven minutes what the fxxx is he thinking. We need a very good goal scorer, we might as well forget this season unless we can win at home or at least against QPR. Are we going to stay up or just pretend that we can I don't know six points from 39 or should we put some spin on it 4 from 6 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺best get some in 😂😂
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Oct 21, 2017 17:59:59 GMT
Post by davidm on Oct 21, 2017 17:59:59 GMT
I don’t want to sound like Mr Negative but that was horrible.
It was a performance that took us back to earlier home games when the opposition dominates possession and we have mass panic in defence. Thankfully, QPR didn’t have a strike force as previous opposition had.
We were playing a really bog standard average team and we gave them most of the possession and played like headless chickens.
Very disappointed to concede late on but QPR absolutely outplayed us in the second half but had no potent strike force.
We just didn’t start like last Saturday. Armstrong had a decent shot just over but that was it. I said after 15 minutes that we had no spark. Ameobi and Vela were totally anonymous and we created little.
QPR had masses of possession and had us penned back in our own half when we broke and Armstrong got clear on the left and got a corner when he may have scored. From the corner, Madine headed across the box for Pratley to run in and head home.
Not particularly deserved but I would have accepted a scrappy 1-0 win and 3 points.
From an attacking point of view, that was it until Vela got clear on the left of the penalty area in the second half but shot meekly straight at the keeper.
And that was definitely it.
QPR had all the rest of the game. We defended stoutly but our only actions were to hoof the ball clear when 99% of the time it went straight to a QPR player and they were back at us.
The inevitable happened when we had 3 attempts to clear and each time hoofed the ball about 15 yards to an opposition when eventually Noone played the ball straight to an opponent. The ball was played in near post and somehow (a deflection?) it squirmed into the corner.
The conditions were awful. If the rain had started half an hour earlier, I don’t think we would have finished - there was so much standing water on the pitch.
Andy is right when he describes our defending. We just endlessly panicked and hoofed the ball upfield to no one, eventually ending up with 3 appalling attempts at a clearance which led to their goal. There was also one free kick on the left which landed at the feet of a QPR player 6 yards out. Somehow Alnwick saved it but how come no defenders’ headers.
Alnwick - 7 Made a couple of decent saves. Distribution was slow and wretched.
Little - 4 Not much support from Ameobi so he was constantly on the back foot.
Wheater - 6 Solid.
Beevers - 6 As Wheater, back to solid performances.
Taylor - 4 His lack of pace nearly cost us a few times.
Henry - 4 Just could not dominate midfield (to my mind he is just a Pratley clone). Endless lobs forward to no one.
Pratley - 5 A point for the goal but he and Henry were totally outclassed by QPR’s midfield today.
Ameobi - 3 Just never started. Very poor.
Armstrong - 6 Why play him on the left when he is a striker? Almost scored with a shot which led to the corner and our goal.
Vela - 4 Like Ameobi, he was a totally different player to last Saturday.
Madine - 5 OK with his head and chest but when the ball got to his feet, he was dreadful.
Morais - 3 Wasted 2 decent chances to cross and never got into the game.
Noone - 4 Started brightly but ultimately made the final awful pass that led to QPR possession and the equaliser.
Le Fondre N/A 7 minutes? Is that all he gets in a must win game.
Manager - 4 Just couldn’t get the midfield to play or stop the mass panic defensively in the second half.
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Oct 21, 2017 18:16:47 GMT
Post by Alptrotter on Oct 21, 2017 18:16:47 GMT
Well, storm Brian did put in an appearance and basically dominated the last hour of this scrappy game. I think (hope) that come the end of the season, we will look back on such games as points won rather than lost. For me, ultimtely a disappointing team performance, although I thought wheater was excellent, Beevers good and Henry (until he tired) also good. In contrast, Little and Taylor were error prone and Ameobi either not fit or not interested. i agree with other comments that we allowed QPR to dominate the second half, but I took heart from the fact that, having conceded an 80 th minute equaliser, we never looked like shipping a second. Substitutes today pretty useless,Noone is appallingly lightweight and not up for a battle, Morais, just poor and ALF should have had 15 minutes longer as Vela had , once again, run himself to a standstill. For me, we are one very good passing midfielder ( a Per Frandsen perhaps) from being comfortable in this league.
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