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Post by riochforthereebok on May 21, 2018 19:49:34 GMT
Please Sunderland, please take PP Cant see it meself but one lives in hope🙄
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Post by bonaparte on May 22, 2018 14:11:21 GMT
Oh dear. Just read BEN article. KA says "PP best man for job in hand......." Ah well more hoofball and grim football next season. Maybe he will resign Madine😥😥😥😥
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 23, 2018 11:03:01 GMT
Oh dear. Just read BEN article. KA says "PP best man for job in hand......." Ah well more hoofball and grim football next season. Maybe he will resign Madine😥😥😥😥 Has to read that last sentence twice Bona Thought it read ‘maybe he will resign’ that would have made better reading😬
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Post by Woppy the Italian on May 24, 2018 19:41:17 GMT
Please Sunderland, please take PP Cant see it meself but one lives in hope🙄 It`s wishful thinking Rioch.!! We will have to just hope new investors have the sense to realise PP is too limited to manage our beloved club. Like a lot of people on here, I started watching the Wanderers in the mid sixties. Rotherham United at home on easter Monday 1966. We lost 3-1, but I loved it. Teams were more on a level playing field in those days but we still didn`t have much money. That said, we did not resort to hoofball. Not many teams did, if any. Some posters suggest that due to financies PP has had no other choice but to play this way. RUBBISH !!!......Any professional footballer can do the basics, and that includes pass and move. To try and justify this brand of mind numbing football as a result of our dire financial position is laughable. Most of the teams in the bottom two divisions are losing money but they still try to play football. We are told that hes done what he was expected to do and we should be content, RUBBISH !!....If I went into my favourite restaurant and ordered my usual curry and it was awful, I would complain. I wouldn`t expect to be told that they had a new chief , and although it wasn't to my taste, he was the best man for the job, due to money problems.. Equally, I wouldn't expect to be told by another paying customer that the chief did what was asked of him and I shouldn't be moaning. I hope some posters on here get where I`m going !!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 24, 2018 22:53:29 GMT
Please Sunderland, please take PP Cant see it meself but one lives in hope🙄 It`s wishful thinking Rioch.!!  We will have to just hope new investors have the sense to realise PP is too limited to manage our beloved club. Like a lot of people on here, I started watching the Wanderers in the mid sixties. Rotherham United at home on easter Monday 1966. We lost 3-1, but I loved it. Teams were more on a level playing field in those days but we still didn`t have much money. That said, we did not resort to hoofball. Not many teams did, if any. Some posters suggest that due to financies PP has had no other choice but to play this way. RUBBISH !!!......Any professional footballer can do the basics, and that includes pass and move. To try and justify this brand of mind numbing football as a result of our dire financial position is laughable. Most of the teams in the bottom two divisions are losing money but they still try to play football. We are told that hes done what he was expected to do and we should be content, RUBBISH !!....If I went into my favourite restaurant and ordered my usual curry and it was awful, I would complain. I wouldn`t expect to be told that they had a new chief , and although it wasn't to my taste, he was the best man for the job, due to money problems.. Equally, I wouldn't expect to be told by another paying customer that the chief did what was asked of him and I shouldn't be moaning. I HOPE SOME POSTERS ON HERE GET WHERE I`M GOING !!!! I get the message loud and clear Woppy and well put as well. It’s that ‘carry on doing what you’ve always done and you’ll only ever get what you’ve got’ scenario if we stick with Parkinson. I do have to have deep thoughts on whether I’m being unfair to wish us rid of him, I mean, after all, he did get us promoted and kept us in the league but my oh my, at what expense, sending fans packing in numbers with the most horrid style of football if that’s what it’s known as. I don’t ask for much in your restaurant of analogies Woppy, I just want a medium rare steak cooked by your chef, if ihe cannot achieve this then I’m not going to pay and I want him removed from my favourite restaurant, do YOU catch my drift 😂
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Post by Woppy the Italian on May 24, 2018 23:06:03 GMT
My point exactly pal.............."Restaurant of analogies"......love it !
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Post by Pedro on May 26, 2018 8:37:20 GMT
Spot on both of you. I am sure all the "holier than thou" comments about supporting PP in the BN comments come from people who have not been through the 90+ minutes of agony nearly every home game and many away games. Nobody can judge if they have only seen "highlights" on TV. I am fine with them being supporters but they haven't a clue how painful it has been to watch a Parky team missing passes and shots by miles and having such low possession stats game after game. I do not credit PP for keeping us in the Championship. If we had not had other teams results go for us we would have been down and that would definitely have been due to his tactics and team selections. As with many former Managers since Sam. We have won games and stayed up DESPITE the awful Managers.
I resorted to watching the Development Squad/U23's to get some enjoyment from "Football" last season as I very rarely enjoyed Parky's fare. How David Lee and Zico improved every player in that team was a joy to see. The style of Football was exciting, skillfull and a pleasure to watch and the lads were SO fit it was amazing. Whereas Parky's players did not seem to improve at all over the season, apart from Madine, and never looked really 100% fit and gave very little pleasure. As some noted - how often did you leave a game buzzing and how often were you excited in anticipation of going to "The Match"?
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Post by OohMac on May 26, 2018 11:19:46 GMT
Let's be honest about these "miracles" that Parky has performed.
1. Getting us up last season: was that really that unexpected. Wigan and Blackburn have bounced back and Rotherham could make that 3 in 3 - think how bad Rotherham were last season! I've no doubt Sunderland and Barnsley will be 1 and 2 next season. In essence he took the 2nd favourites to go up and got them finishing 2nd and throwing a 10 point lead away with few games to go(sound familiar)
2. He kept us up: again we were probably 3rd favourites to go down behind Millwall and Burton and finished 4th bottom. Good job but no miracle. Especially compared to the other clubs that came up with us.
3. He's done it all without spending a penny. I'm sorry but not paying a fee and not spending a penny are two different things. He has in his time signed a whole new squad of players often from the league above or in the same league.
He's not the messiah, or a very naughty boy, he's quite simply a football manager who plays a certain style doing just enough. He is just Dave Bassett and that's all he has ever been and or ever will be.
Sunderland not gone for Parky sadly.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 27, 2018 21:54:01 GMT
Let's be honest about these "miracles" that Parky has performed. 1. Getting us up last season: was that really that unexpected. Wigan and Blackburn have bounced back and Rotherham could make that 3 in 3 - think how bad Rotherham were last season! I've no doubt Sunderland and Barnsley will be 1 and 2 next season. In essence he took the 2nd favourites to go up and got them finishing 2nd and throwing a 10 point lead away with few games to go(sound familiar) 2. He kept us up: again we were probably 3rd favourites to go down behind Millwall and Burton and finished 4th bottom. Good job but no miracle. Especially compared to the other clubs that came up with us. 3. He's done it all without spending a penny. I'm sorry but not paying a fee and not spending a penny are two different things. He has in his time signed a whole new squad of players often from the league above or in the same league. He's not the messiah, or a very naughty boy, he's quite simply a football manager who plays a certain style doing just enough. He is just Dave Bassett and that's all he has ever been and or ever will be. Sunderland not gone for Parky sadly. Speaking of Rotherham OM, I watched their play off final with Shrewsbury this afternoon and although the Millers were far the better side, it was pretty poor fayre, much like we watched last season with poor defending and many missed chances. What was striking though, was that both teams at least tried to play football and never resorted to hoofing it forward. Both Paul Warne at Rotherham and Paul Hurst at Shrewsbury must be applauded because they too had to create squads from freebies and loans with only Rotherham paying a fee last year of £85k on a certain forward called Proctor!! Id have either of those two at Bolton in place of Parky, especially Paul Hurst, who on a shoestring at a club with one tenth the value of ours, nearly pulled off automatic promotion and in his two years there has totally transformed the club. How I wish I could look forward to what next season would bring instead of knowing already it will be the same rubbish as this year but with a different cast. I still live in hope that Anderson finds a buyer and they do what they have to do for us to succeed. My fingers and toes are crossed but congratulations to the Millers and a virtual "home" game for me next year if I decide to end my ban on attending Parky games and venture down there.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on May 28, 2018 10:34:39 GMT
Just checked on next seasons fixed odds. We are second favourites to finish bottom behind Rotherham.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 28, 2018 15:33:03 GMT
Just checked on next seasons fixed odds. We are second favourites to finish bottom behind Rotherham. Well Woppy, the bookies don’t often get it wrong but they had us down for the drop last season so who knows!!!!! Tell yer what though, if I were Ken, I’d be straight down the motorway to Coventry to snap up Mark Robbins, Mark McNulty, Jordan Shipley and Jack Grimmer Good attack minded manager and young hungry talented players Dream on tho🙄🙄
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Post by whitesince63 on May 29, 2018 8:35:51 GMT
Looks like Paul Hurst is destined for Ipswich then? Bet they'll be a different team next year and up around the play offs whilst we struggle on once again under Parky.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on May 29, 2018 8:47:08 GMT
I know its nothing to do with Parky, but I feel the need to pass a comment. I also don't want to start another thread on a topic that seems to be swept under the carpet whenever possible. I have looked at news headlines today and surprise surprise ......nothing ! Its the anniversary of Heysel today but so far no mention of it.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 29, 2018 11:34:03 GMT
I know its nothing to do with Parky, but I feel the need to pass a comment. I also don't want to start another thread on a topic that seems to be swept under the carpet whenever possible. I have looked at news headlines today and surprise surprise ......nothing !     Its the anniversary of Heysel today but so far no mention of it. Don’t think Liverpool can take any more bad news Woppy Watched that Kenny documentary the other day on the Beeb. Great footballer but what is it with these arrogant Scots that they treat the media with such disrespect. We’ve all seen Fergie down tools and walk out of interviews when he’s asked a pertinent but relevant question, one reporter asked Kenny a question as Kenny is announcing he is leaving his role at Liverpool and Kenny snaps “should I stop talking now’ to the reporter!!! Fck you KD that’s out of order, back to the documentary, it shows Heysel and Hillsborogh and to be fair, Kenny dealt with both tragedies with dignity and became a 96 ambassador l, we also saw a vulnerability in him which kind of surprised me when you saw how he treated some people, like his decision to drop Phil Neale as captain for his mate Alan Hanson! Off topic, what do we make of Raheem Sterling and his insensitive tattoo??
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Post by Woppy the Italian on May 29, 2018 15:27:33 GMT
I just think it should be mentioned Rioch. On the Raheem Sterling tattoo, I think hes made a serious mistake. I also don't buy his silly dad related excuse for having it done. JMHO !!
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