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Post by andyl on Sept 19, 2017 18:30:58 GMT
Rather a grand sight. Was last here for Bolt, Rudisha and er Savinova in 2012. Now behold Howard and Turner warming up. Shooting practice! Not much on target.
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2017 18:54:25 GMT
Chronic defending. No one jumped so 1-0 down already
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2017 19:20:22 GMT
This could be very embarrassing.
2-0 and sliced open so easily. Who is playing right back?
Have we had an attack yet?
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2017 19:35:50 GMT
Can anybody work out our defensive formation? Is it 3 at the back or a flat back 4?
Sounds like Taylor is centre half and Dervite at right back or is Morais a wing back. I cannot work it out.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 19, 2017 19:50:55 GMT
We can concentrate on the league now😂😂🤔🤔😞😞😥😥😱😜😥😥
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 19, 2017 21:23:37 GMT
Total disgrace tonight, wrong team, same old, same old failing players and formation. Completely missed a trick tonight to at least try something new but not Parky, let's have Howard, Pratley and Dervite back in instead of giving youth a chance and lump it up to a pensioner whilst I give Madine a rest. This guy has to go now if we're to have any chance of survival.
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Post by andyl on Sept 19, 2017 21:39:49 GMT
Total disgrace tonight, wrong team, same old, same old failing players and formation. Completely missed a trick tonight to at least try something new but not Parky, let's have Howard, Pratley and Dervite back in instead of giving youth a chance and lump it up to a pensioner whilst I give Madine a rest. This guy has to go now if we're to have any chance of survival. Really insipid start! Set up with Taylor , Beevers and Dervite as a back three with Morais as wing back on one side and Robinson the other. Howard let an innocuous shot through his legs and they were leaving Morais for dead at will. Awful selection immediately exposed. A silly Le Fondre foul was followed by a good cross and a ridiculously easy goal. They should have had another soon after. Indeed they could have added three or four. Dervite made one superb block but was otherwise embarrassingly slow, once turned inside and out. Wilbraham got a header in target and brought ironic applause. Second half was a stalemate. Robinson had one very good chance but passed to Earing who was too slow to convert it. Good points: we were better defensi Ely when Wheater came on. When Taylor played behind Robinson there was a bit of forward spark. Noone was tricky and promising. Wilbraham gave a good honest performance as did Le Fondre and right at the end Armsrong and Le Fondre looked bright and threatening together. One young player was blooded, King. Was off the pace but did some good things. The opportunity was missed to try Turner. Howard was predictably dire but collected one through ball well We were outclassed and looked pleased to be our of the competition. There was next to no fight. Howard 3 Dervite 1 Beevers 4 Wheater 6 Taylor 4 Robinson 5 Morais 2 Noone 5 King 4 Pratley 4 Le Fondre 6 Wilbraham 5 Armstrong 6 Earing 4
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 19, 2017 21:59:17 GMT
Total disgrace tonight, wrong team, same old, same old failing players and formation. Completely missed a trick tonight to at least try something new but not Parky, let's have Howard, Pratley and Dervite back in instead of giving youth a chance and lump it up to a pensioner whilst I give Madine a rest. This guy has to go now if we're to have any chance of survival. Really insipid start! Set up with Taylor , Beevers and Dervite as a back three with Morais as wing back on one side and Robinson the other. Howard let an innocuous shot through his legs and they were leaving Morais for dead at will. Awful selection immediately exposed. A silly Le Fondre foul was followed by a good cross and a ridiculously easy goal. They should have had another soon after. Indeed they could have added three or four. Dervite made one superb block but was otherwise embarrassingly slow, once turned inside and out. Wilbraham got a header in target and brought ironic applause. Second half was a stalemate. Robinson had one very good chance but passed to Earing who was too slow to convert it. Good points: we were better defensi Ely when Wheater came on. When Taylor played behind Robinson there was a bit of forward spark. Noone was tricky and promising. Wilbraham gave a good honest performance as did Le Fondre and right at the end Armsrong and Le Fondre looked bright and threatening together. One young player was blooded, King. Was off the pace but did some good things. The opportunity was missed to try Turner. Howard was predictably dire but collected one through ball well We were outclassed and looked pleased to be our of the competition. There was next to no fight. Howard 3 Dervite 1 Beevers 4 Wheater 6 Taylor 4 Robinson 5 Morais 2 Noone 5 King 4 Pratley 4 Le Fondre 6 Wilbraham 5 Armstrong 6 Earing 4 Tut Tut AndyL.... No marks for the gaffer?
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2017 22:41:49 GMT
Total disgrace tonight, wrong team, same old, same old failing players and formation. Completely missed a trick tonight to at least try something new but not Parky, let's have Howard, Pratley and Dervite back in instead of giving youth a chance and lump it up to a pensioner whilst I give Madine a rest. This guy has to go now if we're to have any chance of survival. Really insipid start! Set up with Taylor , Beevers and Dervite as a back three with Morais as wing back on one side and Robinson the other. Howard let an innocuous shot through his legs and they were leaving Morais for dead at will. Awful selection immediately exposed. A silly Le Fondre foul was followed by a good cross and a ridiculously easy goal. They should have had another soon after. Indeed they could have added three or four. Dervite made one superb block but was otherwise embarrassingly slow, once turned inside and out. Wilbraham got a header in target and brought ironic applause. Second half was a stalemate. Robinson had one very good chance but passed to Earing who was too slow to convert it. Good points: we were better defensi Ely when Wheater came on. When Taylor played behind Robinson there was a bit of forward spark. Noone was tricky and promising. Wilbraham gave a good honest performance as did Le Fondre and right at the end Armsrong and Le Fondre looked bright and threatening together. One young player was blooded, King. Was off the pace but did some good things. The opportunity was missed to try Turner. Howard was predictably dire but collected one through ball well We were outclassed and looked pleased to be our of the competition. There was next to no fight. Howard 3 Dervite 1 Beevers 4 Wheater 6 Taylor 4 Robinson 5 Morais 2 Noone 5 King 4 Pratley 4 Le Fondre 6 Wilbraham 5 Armstrong 6 Earing 4 Pretty damning report, Andy. I was totally flummoxed about the shape of the side and just couldn't make it out from the radio reports. Why stick with 3 at the back when that shape has destroyed us this season. It also seems a wasted opportunity not to try Turner, Earing etc because we were going to lose anyway. The conceding of early goals in most matches is killing us. What do we do to get the side ready for kick-off.
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Post by andyl on Sept 20, 2017 7:08:38 GMT
Really insipid start! Set up with Taylor , Beevers and Dervite as a back three with Morais as wing back on one side and Robinson the other. Howard let an innocuous shot through his legs and they were leaving Morais for dead at will. Awful selection immediately exposed. A silly Le Fondre foul was followed by a good cross and a ridiculously easy goal. They should have had another soon after. Indeed they could have added three or four. Dervite made one superb block but was otherwise embarrassingly slow, once turned inside and out. Wilbraham got a header in target and brought ironic applause. Second half was a stalemate. Robinson had one very good chance but passed to Earing who was too slow to convert it. Good points: we were better defensi Ely when Wheater came on. When Taylor played behind Robinson there was a bit of forward spark. Noone was tricky and promising. Wilbraham gave a good honest performance as did Le Fondre and right at the end Armsrong and Le Fondre looked bright and threatening together. One young player was blooded, King. Was off the pace but did some good things. The opportunity was missed to try Turner. Howard was predictably dire but collected one through ball well We were outclassed and looked pleased to be our of the competition. There was next to no fight. Howard 3 Dervite 1 Beevers 4 Wheater 6 Taylor 4 Robinson 5 Morais 2 Noone 5 King 4 Pratley 4 Le Fondre 6 Wilbraham 5 Armstrong 6 Earing 4 Pretty damning report, Andy. I was totally flummoxed about the shape of the side and just couldn't make it out from the radio reports. Why stick with 3 at the back when that shape has destroyed us this season. It also seems a wasted opportunity not to try Turner, Earing etc because we were going to lose anyway. The conceding of early goals in most matches is killing us. What do we do to get the side ready for kick-off. PP is quite lucky really that off field issues have excused decisions made or at least deflected criticism to a degree. It is quite plain that three at the back exposed us to flank attacks from better teams. That we had the hapless Dervite protected only by Morais who is no wing back made it even more obvious. I cannot think why Turner wasn't started. He isn't ready is perhaps the argument. But if so look at Howard, experienced maybe but will never be ready. Yesterday the very first ball to make its way to Howard would have been more likely held by an octopus. You could feel the edge go from everyone as it squirmed through hands and legs even if to no damage. Worse than that he has no presence at all in the air so crosses go unopposed unless defenders go for them. Alnwick is not much better. So Turner, ready or not had to play because if he isn't ready we need to buy a keeper pronto or relegation is certain? He also needed to play Robinson ahead of Taylor from the off-. Robinson even so was our brightest player going forward - there is hope there. There is also hope in an Armstrong Le Fondre pairing. They were bright for the last few minutes. But that might mean going Madine-less and Wilbraham-less and I'm not sure PP thinks like that. Wilbraham I'd add was ok - more mobile than Madine and better in the air but no obviously better goal threat and 37- so not an answer. It's difficult but this was a limp concession from a disinterested team and to a degree the history of bwfc was insulted and worse no-one noticed because it was the Caribao cup and these days clubs collude with its insignificance
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Post by thekraken on Sept 20, 2017 8:37:28 GMT
Had a great view from above the half way line. Pity that what I had to see was such embarrassing rubbish.
Can't add much to Andy's report. To me it doesn't much matter whether we play 3 or 4 at the back the players on view last night are much too slow and by that fact alone will always leak goals. This is compounded by the worst two goalies to wear the shirt that I can remember. Turner must get a chance.
My Hammers mate's verdict was that it was two poor sides playing each other and he was annoyed that they eased up in the second half when they could have pushed on and got a cricket score.
Disappointed not to see more of the young players but what I saw of Earing and King was a long way from giving me any confidence that they are two up and coming journeymen. I remember the first time I saw Jason McAteer play. You could tell immediately that he had some class.
So a depressing night. All we can hope for is that we can get a side together that can win a few points and finish fourth from bottom.
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