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Post by wots on Mar 31, 2018 10:02:52 GMT
I'm aware that the season is not over just yet, but I thought that I'd raise this thread again.
Compare the 'mainly positive' views then, compared to the recent 'mainly negative' views when Joanna tried a rallying round of the fans on here. Only one person voted that we would go straight back to League One.
No one mentions style of play, even though we all know what Parky's style is.
We don't have a "twenty goal scorer" and we even sold our top scorer, which Pedro quite rightly points out in another thread, "is unused bench strength at Cardiff". Not a bad bit of business at 6 mill?
I'll leave you with this quote from Pedro, which I'm sure given the financial state of the club at the start of the season and transfer embargo.
"As long as we finish above the relegation zone the Team will have don well. Anything above that will be a bonus."
Can we include Parky and Anderson in "the team"? I do.
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 31, 2018 18:23:03 GMT
I didn't particularly agree with Pedros comment then and I still don't Wots. Of course, the minimum any club coming up would settle for is just survival but surely that shouldn't be a level you aspire for. It seems Parky's attitude all season has been one of just survival. Let's set up not to lose, let's pick a team that will defend, whilst the likes of Millwall and Sheffield Utd intended to win and look at the difference. We were very lucky to be promoted last year and even then nearly threw it away with Parkinson's complete adherence to hoof, whether we had the players to suit it or not. He carried that on this season, only adapting when Madine was sold. I still don't accept he believes in it and would revert back to hoof immediately if he was given the finances to sign another Madine. Whatever happens this year, I just can't stomach another season of Parkinson's brand of football next season. I just hope we scrape staying up, find a new owner/investor and a new manager who will restore the excitement I used to experience the day before a game.
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Post by Pedro on Apr 1, 2018 0:30:54 GMT
I also said " Will Beevers and Wheater be able to score as many as they did in League 1?" as I actually said "My hope is that we can stay above relegation all season and not be in a relegation battle at the end of the season." That was my aspiration and my fear was what OTM had said "Not enough quality to avoid relegation but we will go down fighting. A lack of goals will do for us and there will be many 1-0 defeats." because of Parky and our team of journeymen with few knowing how to score enough goals which is exactly what has happened. If W & B had managed to chip in as many as they did last season we should have had a cushion by now or of course, if Parky had realised how important goals were going to be at the end of the season he should have blooded the goal scoring youngsters to see whether he could get more than one goal in each of the last 17 bloody games!
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Post by OohMac on Apr 1, 2018 7:27:02 GMT
Not just Wheater and Beevers goals were missing. No one seems to be chipping in at the moment. Parkinson plays binary football. His goal form record is 111100100010. We haven't scored 2 since before Christmas and 8 all season.
Hardly any goals from Ameobi after a good start, Buckley and Noone have added nothing, Vela has been disappointed and you don't expect anything from Pratley, Henry or Derick in terms of goals and were not getting much.
So we're too reliant on ALF. Last years "doesn't fit" is now the hopes for survival.
I was confident of survival until the Sunderland and Birmingham results.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 1, 2018 8:28:34 GMT
That's exactly my point OM. Parky doesn't go for goals, he goes for not conceding goals and hopes to score by accident. Of course Wheats and Beevers aren't scoring this year Pedro. Last year the teams and defenders in league 1 were rubbish unlike the higher quality this year. Surely nobody could have expected the same from then again, or at least nobody but Parky? I'm fed up listening to the "players are rubbish because they're frees" gang. That's garbage. We don't have million pound players but they're more than good enough to succeed in this division if coached correctly. Our situation is entirely down to Phil Parkinson, his continually negative attitude and inability to adapt to situations or counter other managers at this level. We know every week, home and away, what to expect so do we seriously not think that opposing managers don't as well? When does Parkinson ever surprise you, set p differently for different situations? He just doesn't, just the same garbage week after week and if we do score, don't even think about getting a second or third, just make sure you pack defence and try not to concede. I'm sick of it and the sooner this excuse for a manager is gone the happier I'll be.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 1, 2018 10:29:49 GMT
Here’s a thought when looking for a replacement manager When Sheffield Utd took a punt on the Northampton Town boss Chris Wilder following his heroics in taking a relegation threatened 4th tier side to promotion, they chose him for his winning mentality, attractive attacking football and win at all costs philosophy!! John Coleman - Accrington Stanley?? Who are they??? Exactly 😂😂
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 1, 2018 10:46:04 GMT
Tues days game will decide our season...lose to the Brum and i see any confidence we have draining away and a miserable end to the season. Its a must win..if parky sets us up not to lose WE WILL!
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Post by Alptrotter on Apr 1, 2018 12:41:19 GMT
Above all, this is a game that we surely must not lose. Having said that, attack is often the best form of defence and, given our home form, I’d like to think that we will be set up to take the game to them. If Kirchhoff actually plays, rather than simply being present as he was on Friday, we will make chances. We just have to take them. ALF must play and, for me, Wilbraham is a wasted sub. Why not give Obasi a chance from the bench? And play Ameobi more centrally with ALF , where he can cause chaos. If only Noone and Buckley would shape up, with Kirchhoff and Derik in CM, we’d have a good chance of beating Brum easily.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 1, 2018 18:53:27 GMT
The problem is Paul, he won't do any of the things you suggest. It will be the same as usual, no variation, no chances taken. After Leeds I'm beginning to fear a collapse similar to last year when we threw away a 10 point lead against teams at the bottom that we should have walloped. It was Parkinson's negativity, naivety and complete refusal to adapt system that almost cost us our very lucky promotion. If we actually attacked teams, attempted to win I've no doubt at all that we would and even if we didn't, I'd rather go down fighting than surrender meakly. These teams are at the bottom for one reason and we should be entirely confident of results against Brum, Barnsley and Burton and the fact we are not is entirely down to Parkinson. No matter how poor the opposition, I haven't attended one game under Parky that I was confident we would win. How sad is that?
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 1, 2018 19:37:11 GMT
good managers send teams out to win....poor managers send teams out not to lose.....enough said !!!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 1, 2018 20:25:11 GMT
The Brum will fancy this! It’s their lucky ground the ReeMac, especially after staving off relegation when they were 2 nil down😡😡😡 Still angers me to this day To win this would be a massive confidence boost and must surely be the one that keeps us up Over to you Parkinson.....
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Post by OohMac on Apr 2, 2018 8:22:38 GMT
good managers send teams out to win....poor managers send teams out not to lose.....enough said !!!! I don't agree with that entirely. Look at Mourinho. Champions league winner with Inter Milan based his tactics on shut outs and containment. But I think it's rather horses for courses and continually playing for draws shows lack of ambition, lack of ideas and that is what makes Parkinson a very limited manager. I would love to see Hall get a game tomorrow with ALF. I know it's a development league but we've seen ourselves when forced to play Holding it can work out. Man Utd were forced to play Rashford and that worked instantly. I think Hall has more goals in him than Wilbraham Walker and Clough. What's more the next away game I would start with half a dozen of the youth team. People will expect a sluggish, immobile side so if they came and took the game to a team we might catch them out. What's there to lose? We've already lost the game before kick off with this same old team.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 2, 2018 9:49:47 GMT
Yet again OM I agree with much of that, including giving some of our youngsters a go, particularly Hall and King, both of whom have showed exceptional promise. Sadly we know Parky won't do that, preferring to stick blindly with what we all know doesn't work. If anything the streaky draws we got at Reading and Wednesday probably made things worse as he thinks things have improved and his method works. Even if he just gave Hall 15-20 minutes at the end instead of the woefull Wilbs and Zach it might produce results? It's the fact that he never tries anything new or different that frustrates me. You would have thought by now that he would have realised that what he's done in away games for two years now just isn't working. Yet again this just confirms to me his complete inability to manage successfully at this level and why whatever happens this year he doesn't have his contract renewed again.
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 2, 2018 16:25:54 GMT
results couldnt really have gone better for us today....A win on tues and I think we pretty well safe...YOU READING THIS PARKY ??
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Post by OohMac on Apr 2, 2018 18:06:41 GMT
Yeah a win and I'd say we're safe. A loss and were right back in it. A draw keeps us in a decent position. If we avoid defeats against the B teams I think we will be ok.
But I look at Ipswich and McCarthy and think that decision just seems sensible. Mick has done a good job with limited funds and backing but the fans are wanting more, Ipswich would be "safe" keeping Mick. The new man maybe a disaster but the fans are not happy, he's not happy, and there's no enjoyment anymore. What's the point of that?
I do genuinely wonder if WBA will regret the stance they took on Pulis but I think deep down they'll reflect and say as important as the premiership is some things are worth more. Football tradition, a club ethos and sorry Scudamore but there was life before the premiership and there can be life after it too.
At 4.45 on a Saturday when your walking out and chewing it over the important things are "did we play well? did we enjoy it? Who's next up, fancy it?" Not well that was rubbish but at least we're hanging on in the league.
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