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Post by socalwanderers on Apr 12, 2014 17:57:02 GMT
Oh god we've woke him up lol
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Post by Pedro on Apr 12, 2014 18:28:51 GMT
Can you remember when watching the litter blowing across the pitch was more exciting than watching the game?
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Post by Pedro on Apr 12, 2014 18:32:32 GMT
A neutral would have had a hard job working out which team was bottom of the league. Come on Wigan!
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Post by Trotter on Apr 12, 2014 18:37:22 GMT
Can you remember when watching the litter blowing across the pitch was more exciting than watching the game? Good quote Pedro.
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Post by wotsupnow on Apr 12, 2014 19:11:17 GMT
Can you remember when watching the litter blowing across the pitch was more exciting than watching the game? Aside from the boring games Pedro, I've mentioned the state of the pitch in a few threads/games. . It looks really bad on my screen...is someone fly tipping at the Reebok?
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Post by davidm on Apr 12, 2014 19:17:49 GMT
New forum but the same whinges from me again.
Another dreary depressing game of football.
Yet again I was gobsmacked by the team selection. It seems that if you play well and, in particular, if you score (Mason, Danns) then you are dropped. This is not the first time this season that this has happened. We changed the complete spine of the side and look dreadful.
Mr Freedman had stated earlier in the week that we would get a fast start and take Barnsley by storm. Well a fast start it certainly wasn’t. Mills was outjumped by a much smaller man on the first ball forward with the attack finishing with a corner. Then a minute later Baptiste was totally skinned and again another corner.
Our attacking was rare. We didn’t even get a corner in the first half. Beckford set up Hall but Moritz amazing took the ball off his foot and wasted the chance. Beckford got our first shot on target but straight at the goalie.
Really little was happening. Barnsley looked better and did more purposeful attacking. We were just average with probably some of the worse examples of continuous bad passing that you could wish to see.
Then, just as it looked like a scoreless dirge for the first half, Mills launched a ball forward and somehow Beckford was on his own. He rounded the keeper and rolled it in. So instead of a half time moan, we were actually winning.
Second half, we were little better. We had a couple of spells when it looked hopeful but as the game wore on the history of the Blackpool and Wigan games came back to haunt us. We dropped further and further back and an equaliser looked inevitable.
The equaliser should have come when Baptiste – for the 3rd game in a row – lunged into an opponent in the box when there was no need and conceded an obvious penalty.
8 minutes to go and we were about to give more points again but somehow Bogdan has the hex over opposing penalty takers. He didn’t save it because O’Grady hit the bar/post.
Mr Freedman immediately took Baptiste off and Knight helped the team to hold on.
As I say, another awful match. There is so little entertainment these days. It is just a dirge from start to finish.
Marks:-
Bogdan - 7 Little to do again.
Hutton - 6 Steady and some decent attacking support.
Mills - 6 Steady but nothing great.
Ream - 7 Apart from one awful pass late in the game, he played well.
Baptiste - 2 Absolutely terrible. Skinned by the Barnsley winger from start until the 82nd minute when he should have cost us 2 points.
Spearing - 7 Tried hard in midfield. The usual few rank bad passes but his endeavour carried us on.
Trotter - 3 Played in Medo’s role and was awful. His passing is dreadful. I worry for next season if it is true that we have signed him.
CYL - 7 A lot of good movement and the only player who seemed to be able to control a ball.
Hall - 6 Unlucky to be subbed. Nothing great but reasonably positive.
Moritz - 4 His contract runs out at the end fof the season. If he was playing to win a new one today, then it failed miserably. A very poor performance.
Beckford - 6 Got the luck when he was onside for the goal. Also got in probably our only other shots on target. Must be played with another striker not on his own.
Danns - 5 Nothing of note.
Jutkiewicz - 6 At least he put some effort and punch into our play when he came on.
Manager - 3 Ridiculous team selection.
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Post by one2many on Apr 12, 2014 19:26:53 GMT
One defeat in 12, 3 wins in a week and another clean sheet ! It's a results business at this stage And the result is we are all bored senseless
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Post by davidm on Apr 12, 2014 19:30:34 GMT
Interesting reactions from the managers:-
Dougie Freedman:-
Speaking in his post-match press conference, Freedman said: “Overall, I felt the margin of victory could have been more than the one goal. We created a number of chances, but credit to Barnsley, they kept going and fought for their manager right to the end. Barnsley were always going to make things difficult for us because their season is far from done. We had to make sure we were at it right from the off. I felt we started the game particularly well and we’re happy with the win. Jermaine is in a good place right now, both on and off the pitch. I felt his performance was very mature today and after such a long time out injured it was pleasing to see him still going strong right at the end of the game. We can’t doubt the penalty decision at the end. I felt the referee had a good game today. Because we didn’t go and finish off Barnsley they then threw everything forward. We’ve been a little guilty of not finishing teams off this season. In the end, the lad has missed the penalty and we’ve gone on to win the game.”
Danny Wilson:- We can't do any more than that, can we?" said Wilson, speaking to Barnsley Player. "Coming here to Bolton and dominating for large, large parts of the game. We had the best chances in the game. Had one penalty but should have had two penalties. They have given us everything today. They've left nothing behind which was asked of them. We've not come away with what we deserved which is not a draw, we should have won that game." Chris O'Grady missed a late, second-half penalty as the Reds searched hard for an equaliser. We won't have to pick them up," added Wilson. "If we play like that on Tuesday we'll be fine. With that type of attitude and application we'll be alright. It was a soft goal to concede but if that's the only mistake we've made all game, we've been harshly punished for it. I'm delighted with that performance. Yes, I'm disappointed with the result but if we can show that commitment and desire on Tuesday, we'll be great."
WERE THEY AT THE SAME MATCH?
I tend to agree with Mr Wilson
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Post by andyl on Apr 12, 2014 19:55:09 GMT
For a relegation battle this encounter lacked vim. I completely get that DF has to use his squad and must inform some big decisions. In essence he moved bench of Doncaster to field and why not? If only he'd bring one or two more in.
The first half saw some pretty football. Unusually here David M and I are at significant variance re one player. I thought Trotter had his best game yet by a country mile. Playing deeper at times his off ball movement was a delight. He helped us link passes through midfield much more than Medo does and if he misplaced a pass or lost possession I didn't see it. He launched some surges forward too and his man marking was very good. If he'd just taken on a couple of shots I'd have made him MoM. Sorry, David! I hope someone saw what I think I saw!
Moritz on the contrary lost the ball every time he got it and Beckford was quite anonymous. Hall was bright and lively and for a while impressed. In the second half he threaded a gorgeous through ball and Moritz nearly dinked it over the keeper. Chungy flattered to deceive. I thought he was good in possession with little or no end product. He really should have converted Beckford's second half shot but was too slow to react.
Defensively after a ditzy start Mills, Ream and Hutton did well. Ream was perhaps the pick save for one terrible square pass with a breakaway then brilliantly thwarted by Spearing. I thought Spearing after his first horrible pass had a fine game today and made lots of match saving tackles
Baptiste was vulnerable throughout and yet another penalty surely signals his demotion. He had a chance to score too, on the end of some delightful inter passing but inexplicably passed to Chungy who was too slow to get a shot in.
I think that all was under control till about 60 mins . Moritz was out of it but Hall suddenly faded very noticeably. As ever Dougie was much too slow to respond and they capitalised. They had missed a sitter after one of Baptiste's skinniness in the first half. Now they missed two more, one a header looked easier to score than miss.
Bogdan again psyched out the penalty taker and Dougie too. Before the penalty Medo was waiting to come on, then this was changed to Mason and eventually he opted for Baptiste's removal - quite rightly and Knight came on to help kill the game which he did. Subs Danns and Jutkiewicz did nothing. Danns stupidly lost possession twice in injury time- at least Jutkiewicz knew to hold the ball in the corner whilst Danns was trying to feed Barnsley
End of season game v weak opposition. A win but not a thriller. Not though our worst game.
Bogdan 8 ( really good quick distribution more than once to Trotter. Hutton 7 Mills 7 Ream 7 Baptiste 1. Spearing 9 Trotter 8 CYL 6 Hall 6 Beckford 5 ( tried really hard to miss his opportunity but somehow got round the keeper. Missed with more style twice in second half.) Moritz 2 Danns 3 Jutkiewicz 5
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Post by andyl on Apr 12, 2014 19:59:29 GMT
And yes Barnsley missed chances and could have had another penalty plus red card for, I think Mills. But they were comfortably contained and I thought we outplayed them in the first half and the first fifteen of the second . At 60 mins DF needed to make a couple of subs to seize the initiative. That he didn't until it was lost was what should be criticised for today!
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Post by torquaywhites on Apr 12, 2014 20:10:06 GMT
I love listening to a moan, and this forum is clearly destined to get the negative juices flowing just like it did at Queenie's Bolton News Forum!!!! We won guys!!!! 3 wins in a week!!!! One defeat in 12, and yet I still feel many need to be put on suicide watch!!! www.samaritans.org/ Just in case!!!! However, I have had a fun day Wanderers won, Torquay won at Dirty Gas, and Stenhousemuir won!!!! Oh and so did Atherton LR!!!!
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Apr 12, 2014 21:08:02 GMT
Can you remember when watching the litter blowing across the pitch was more exciting than watching the game? Aside from the boring games Pedro, I've mentioned the state of the pitch in a few threads/games. . It looks really bad on my screen...is someone fly tipping at the Reebok? Yep, most other teams dump all their shit into our starting 11
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 12, 2014 21:15:58 GMT
Well I'm chuffed for Atherton!!
Is that it for Torquay TW? I mean, I know they won, but are they dropping out of the league??
Them stats read well and good and at any other club in the Chumpionship they'd be acceptable, certainly for Barnsley or Yeovil, but come on!!! We are BOLTON WANDERERS FC.... We should have p155ed this league with entertaining cavalier football, but them wins and draws have been scraped, begged, borrowed and had the DF luck factor. Clearly, none of the paying supporters are enamoured with them stats. And the worst thing is, they have to sit through 4 more games before it all starts again for 2014/15. I've mentioned before on the now defunct BN forum that if we start next season like we've ended this, I won't be happy with the style and quality of the footy on show, but I'll be happy if we are top 4 for the majority of it AND I'll lay off Freedman
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Post by Spanish Jonny on Apr 12, 2014 21:16:30 GMT
Andy, you cannot be serious about Trotter! His first touch is terrible, he can't tackle, he can't pass and he can't win headers, he makes Pratley look good. We don't need Trotter, Dougie's tried him in the Danns role just behind the ONE striker and he can't play there and today he played him in the Medo role and he was only 25% as effective as Medo. Back to the game, ONE striker (if that's what Beckford is) at home playing the bottom of the league is taking the p--s Beckford, Moritz and Trotter have to be the three laziest players in our squad, I would ditch all three for next season. Ok Baptiste was clumsy as usual and gave them a penalty but there was only 5mins to go and they were swarming all over us, to sub him with Knight was petty and un professional by Dougie, it then involved moving Ream to left back, Mills to left centre just to get Knight to right centre, stupid! If Dougie think's Baptiste is crap why as he made more appearances than anybody else? Mason deserved some time today, if he had as many chances as Beckford did today he'd be taking the match ball home
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Post by Woppy The Italian on Apr 12, 2014 21:24:29 GMT
We must be the most boring team in the league. Yes we won, but yet again it could of been different. Some of you on here seem to be more than happy with the way things have panned out, especially recently. We`ve had a few lucky results recently....including today. You should take in the whole picture!
Tactics, team selections, performances, the fact that we havn`t beaten any of the top 9 teams in the league.
You should set your standards a lot higher, he simply isnt getting any where near the best out of the players he has. Thats because he isnt good enough. Now if some of you are happy with what you are currently watching under this clown, thats fine by me...........but personally I expect better !
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