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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 14, 2017 11:42:45 GMT
There's got to be goals in this one, at both ends I'm guessing, but that result v Walsall should set us up nicely for a 2-1 win I hope COYWM
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Post by one2many on Feb 14, 2017 14:28:42 GMT
For a change I am also quite confident. The manager changed formation last weekend and we played more "football" using the wingers rather than just hoof ball. We have goalscorers in the team and on the bench (hoping that Long is fit). 2-1 sounds about right.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 14, 2017 15:51:33 GMT
I agree, we should win tonight but then how many times have I thought that? Still, I think after Saturday and a confidence boosting win we should have too much for them. Saturday was by no means good in terms of football but at least we did look like scoring for a change. Well beggars can't be choosers but I'm going mental and forecasting a 3-1 win for the mighty whites.
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Post by greydad on Feb 14, 2017 18:34:37 GMT
Missed chances at Rochdale proved costly, lets hope that chances created tonight will be converted and gain another win. It will be a shame if Long is unfit, but ALF and Madine look capable of causing problems as a pair ....1-0 will do nicely, but another 3 or 4 goal haul would be a real boost for the upcoming games in Yorkshire....here's hoping!!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 14, 2017 21:27:43 GMT
Did ALF get injured or is Madine bulletproof?? It's 0-0 after 63 mins and PP takes off Alf Hope you know what your doing PP
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 14, 2017 22:20:26 GMT
Did ALF get injured or is Madine bulletproof?? It's 0-0 after 63 mins and PP takes off Alf Hope you know what your doing PP Come on rftr, PP is hardly likely to take off his love child is he? Still, we got away with it tonight so clearly Parky was right!!! Sounded like a pretty poor performance yet again but 3 points are entirely welcome however we got them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 22:21:41 GMT
1-0 great result 6 points from our last two home games sets us up nicely for two very tough away games at Bradford and Sheffield.
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Post by thegrud1 on Feb 14, 2017 22:24:50 GMT
What a bloody awful game...3pts is 3pts but god that was bad !
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Post by andyl on Feb 14, 2017 23:05:36 GMT
That was a quite dreadful game. We saw one good Rochdale pass lead to a shot fired wide and a deft Trotter pass find Spearing who tried I know not what and there ended the passing. Alnwick's was the boot that launched a thousand kicks. Few achieved other than lost possession.
I hope PP now knows that Beevers and Wheater can't do the forward movement a three requires. Derik probably can but after a good first half and one excellent long ball pass he was cruelly found out as Rochdale targeted his aerial weakness in the second and he got wilder and wilder.
Morais again stood out in terms of skill and he seems to be being credited with the goal. I do think it crossed the line but as to what happened prior to that point haven't a clue.
It was a stalemate really. I think Trotter and Vela were disciplined in defending and we weren't for once overrun in midfield but Spearing was fifty shades of awful, battling but never retaining possession
We had a few crosses. ALF all but got to one on the near post but it is I think clear that Long should start some games at his or Madine's expense. Moxey on for Taylor did take us forward and had one good shot but he lunged in and was bested more than once. Defensively he's an accident waiting to happen.
So- a dire game but three points on a night when others fell back. I fear the outcome of the next two games.
Alnwick 3 Derik 5 Wheater 7 Beavers 6 Taylor 5 Moxey 4 Morais 7 Vela 6 Trotter 6 Spearing 4 Madine 6 Le Fondre 4 Long 7
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Post by greydad on Feb 14, 2017 23:25:36 GMT
An attritional 3 points, further ground gained on the leaders, and whilst it was not a game that was easy on the eye at no time did I feel that the Wanderers would lose. Well done to the linesman for being right up with play and alert to the ball crossing the line, a scrambled goal perhaps being a fitting way in which to win the game. Shame about Taylor's injury, Moxey did well on a couple of surging runs, almost creating, perhaps even scoring a goal on one occasion, but he must show better judgement when going in for challenges. Morais was a threat throughout when used, and Long added zip and enthusiasm. A clean sheet was kept and Rochdale were restricted to the one clear chance...free flowing football would have been lovely, but results matter and if the campaign is ultimately successful no one will remember the quality of performance tonight come the end of the season.
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Post by bonaparte on Feb 15, 2017 7:50:53 GMT
I agree with all, very poor all round, with 5 in midfield why were orders to punt upfield and as Andy says just to lose possession. Sixes all round to me except Morais, a 7, he can pick a cross and Trotter 5. Andy, you continue your love affair with Trotter, two tackles and a block in the first half, one pass in the second, but little else, he was a passenger most of the night, in my opinion does not rate 6, the pace picked up when he was substituted.
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Post by andyl on Feb 15, 2017 8:33:39 GMT
Re Trotter , Bonaparte, you omit that he had our one decent shot in the first half, covered Spearing time and time again and was an important part of a non overrun midfield. BUT it's not actually a love affair with Trooter for me. I try to comment objectively on what I see. When he's bad I say so e.g. Coventry. I don't take the view that once bad always bad or once good always good. Trooter can at his best pass, tackle, head and shoot. You argued that last Saturday he had an easy shot at an open goal. No-it was a great piece of skill and a fine shot. Of the current team only Vela could equal it and maybe Henry. But yes Trotter does himself no favours with his ambling gait and his modest acceleration. At worst he radiates lethargy and that saps team morale and crowd morale. And if paired with Thorpe or Spearing in a two we stagnate.
Last night he had an OK game. PP will have been pleased. But last night Trotter and Vela might have been better kitted out with telescopes rather than boots!
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Post by davidm on Feb 15, 2017 9:19:48 GMT
We are at the stage of the season when points are crucial. Achieving points overrides playing entertaining football so a good 3 points achieved particularly the way other results went.
That’s the end of my positivity.
What an absolute horrible game of football that was.
First half we had a Madine header cleared off the line and Trotter’s follow-up blocked and, I think, that was it. Rochdale had no shots and we ran about aimlessly, hoofed the ball upfield and achieved nothing but at least we were the dominant side.
I don’t know what happens at half time!
Either Mr Parkinson bores the players with negative talk or the opposition manager has us sussed out and changes tactics but in nearly every game recently we have been dreadful in the second half. And last night was the same.
The only tactic we had in the second half was to hoof it to Madine who occasionally won it but mainly lost it. The midfield backed off and off and Rochdale probably felt they could win the match but they were toothless also.
The manager is in danger of alienating the fans. There was one move in the second half where Spearing had the ball 20 yards into Rochdale’s half. He needlessly turned and passed back another 25 yards to Beevers who then turned and passed back all the way to Alnwick. Alnwick then hoofed it forward only for us to immediately lose possession,
Terrible terrible tactics which brought a chorus of boos. We need the fans behind the team but these tactics will kill us.
I am off to Bradford and Sheffield and expect us to play dour defensive football and hope for two 0-0 results.
I hope they surprise me.
Alnwick - 6 Nothing to do. One scrambled save in the second half. But endless very poor quality hoofing of the ball.
Derik - 7 Steady and a couple of really good quality passes. As Andy says, troubled by high balls in the second half.
Wheater - 7 As usual steady. Very little got passed him.
Beevers - 7 A couple of wayward punts but I thought that he was steadier than the last few matches. A good clean sheet for the side.
Morais - 8 The only one to appreciate that football can be played on the floor. Endlessly on the move.
Spearing - 5 A real struggle for me. His passing has deteriorated. His determination is there and he breaks up play but creativity is none. Pointlessly booked so he will miss Bradford and Sheffield apparently.
Trotter - 5 The reason why loads of fans dislike him. He ambled about, hardly tackled and was by-passed by the Rochdale midfield. He made one excellent break and pass in the second half which Spearing absolutely screwed up.
Vela - 5 He looks lost in a more central role that he has had to move to since Le Fondre’s arrival. Just not in the game.
Taylor - 7 Did well at left wing back until his injury.
Le Fondre - 5 A few little darts but has not yet worked out how to play next to Madine.
Madine - 6 He won quite a few long balls with both head and chest but the moment he brings the ball down to his feet he wastes everything. Worked really hard but cannot pass the ball at all. Excellent header in first half which was cleared off the line.
Long - 6 A couple of decent runs plus a couple of dives.
Thorpe - 5 Hardly noticed him but, of course, that partly why he is brought on. Just to run the game down.
Moxey - 5 A couple of good bursts forward but terrifies me in defensive situations.
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Post by bonaparte on Feb 15, 2017 11:46:29 GMT
Sorry to come back Andy, if Trotter can " at his best pass, tackle, head and shoot" he is clearly not been at his best for some time, he can pass, usually backwards, he can tackle, but infrequently, I have seen no evidence of his heading ability, usually gets out jumped, and yes he has a few shots. I was right behind his goal on Saturday and have looked at the replay, to say that only Vela and he could have scored denigrates players such as Spearing, Long, Wheater (yes I do mean Wheater), Morais, ALF and even Madine. If he can do all the things you attribute to him the we all would want him to play every game. not just you and PP.
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Post by joanna on Feb 15, 2017 13:43:00 GMT
But yes Trotter does himself no favours with his ambling gait and his modest acceleration. At worst he radiates lethargy and that saps team morale and crowd morale. Congratulations, Andy, and welcome to planet earth. I'd quibble over the word "modest", however! Next:- stop picking on the one whose energy and commitment do set an example to the rest, even when his distribution is awry. He is skipper for a reason and we will miss him in the next two games. Speed, industry and energy win games in this division, not inertia.
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