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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 4, 2017 22:44:22 GMT
Yes, RFTR, you're another of the mealy-mouthed brigade, whose reaction to tonight's win, I noted, was to regret not beating Chesterfield. For god's sake! We've suffered years of disappointment so it's exhilarating, as Andy L says, to have lots to cheer about at last. Let your hair down, man! I would if I had any😂 Chill Joanna, I've followed the good times and the bad for long enough to be allowed to have my say once in a while but if it makes you feel better, I apologise unreservedly for my negativity 😞 |
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Post by thekraken on Apr 5, 2017 0:10:00 GMT
Another great away performance. 5 away wins on the bounce is the sign of a good team I think. Whites and Rioch you need to get out on the road  for some entertainment. 3 draws and a win (just) in the last 4 at home has to be down to how teams set up to play us at the Macron. But we have won 12 at home and 11 at home so fairly consistent home or away. I'm now 100% confident that we'll get automatic promotion. I doubt any of the now distant chasing pack will even get to our 79 points. There's 3 points between the 5 of them so they'll be nervy, will lack confidence and probably tread water. Fleetwood have scored 1 goal in their last 4 games. No way they'll catch us. I was listening to 2 Southend fans talking on the train on the way back.... Bolton are a good side. Very confident. Always quick to the ball and in control. I remember Dervite when he was on loan with us from Spurs. Class.....  Andy has given you the details, with which I agree. We dominated the first half, were disrupted by Madine's injury but got through it after they pressed (a little) at the start of the second half. Looked confident for the draw and then Beevers hammered in the winner. Madine has become increasingly important to us in his mini-SKD role. I'm starting to believe he might make it in the Championship for us but that will depend on what sort of squad we end up with in the summer and what the plan is for staying in the Championship. 17 players out of contract means big changes. Number one priority for me is a good goalie for next season. Howard was again the weakest link tonight. It's a good job we have a good defence so that he is rarely troubled. Here's the goal celebration...  |
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Post by thekraken on Apr 5, 2017 0:11:27 GMT
Another great away performance. 5 away wins on the bounce is the sign of a good team I think. Whites and Rioch you need to get out on the road for some entertainment. 3 draws and a win (just) in the last 4 at home has to be down to how teams set up to play us at the Macron. But we have won 12 at home and 11 away so fairly consistent home or away. I'm now 100% confident that we'll get automatic promotion. I doubt any of the now distant chasing pack will even get to our 79 points. There's 3 points between the 5 of them so they'll be nervy, will lack confidence and probably tread water. Fleetwood have scored 1 goal in their last 4 games. No way they'll catch us. I was listening to 2 Southend fans talking on the train on the way back.... Bolton are a good side. Very confident. Always quick to the ball and in control. I remember Dervite when he was on loan with us from Spurs. Class..... Andy has given you the details, with which I agree. We dominated the first half, were disrupted by Madine's injury but got through it after they pressed (a little) at the start of the second half. Looked confident for the draw and then Beevers hammered in the winner. Madine has become increasingly important to us in his mini-SKD role. I'm starting to believe he might make it in the Championship for us but that will depend on what sort of squad we end up with in the summer and what the plan is for staying in the Championship. 17 players out of contract means big changes. Number one priority for me is a good goalie for next season. Howard was again the weakest link tonight. It's a good job we have a good defence so that he is rarely troubled. |
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Post by thekraken on Apr 5, 2017 0:13:09 GMT
Sorry for the double post. Told me that it couldn't upload the file.
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Post by OohMac on Apr 5, 2017 6:25:39 GMT
Fantastic win, great to keep another clean sheet. Howard still managed to score a 4 though AndyL?
I would have been delighted with 0-0 as I think a point a game from the last six should have made it too much for the others so now I think we're 3 points off.
Fans across the country are a mix of positive and pessimist, that's just human nature so I don't see the need to take shots at the half empty brigade, of which I am a member after a strong end to the season. To say they are not fans is ridiculous. There will be Chelsea, Newcastle and Sheff Utd fans who all think "it's just like us to mess this up now".
Yes credit to PP as this season we could have done a Charlton, Mk Dons. But I think Ken has done his bit be allowing quality players to be signed. Not many teams could afford ALF to come in. He rolled the dice many times this season. Recruited mainly from division higher and even Premier league and gave PP the tools to get the job done. Credit to him, so far very grateful to the man.
Now his job really gets hard with 17 out of contract players. Is that the real motivation for some of the players? Been burnt by that too many times in the past. Not sure who will have the final say on that one.
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Post by joanna on Apr 5, 2017 7:34:02 GMT
I'm sorry if i was a bit harsh with a couple of you yesterday, but determination to find fault, and stubborn reluctance to appreciate achievement and progress is utterly infuriating and unjust. Euphoria at the late winner last night swept me up, so I apologise if I caused upset. However, where I was hoping to join with you all in comradely acclamation and celebration at 21.45 yesterday, I was greeted with attitudes that poured cold water on elated emotions.
BTW: another example of largely unacknowledged improvement this year has been the fitness and training that have turned us from a team that often concedes late to one that sees out time better and tends to score late.
Promotion is still on ice but what achievement against the odds! No cheque books involved!
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Post by joanna on Apr 5, 2017 7:40:53 GMT
Yes, RFTR, you're another of the mealy-mouthed brigade, whose reaction to tonight's win, I noted, was to regret not beating Chesterfield. For god's sake! We've suffered years of disappointment so it's exhilarating, as Andy L says, to have lots to cheer about at last. Let your hair down, man! I would if I had any😂 Chill Joanna, I've followed the good times and the bad for long enough to be allowed to have my say once in a while but if it makes you feel better, I apologise unreservedly for my negativity 😞 What a lovely, civilised post RFTR. Thank you. It does make me feel better.....as has a good night's sleep after a stirring victory! Thanks too for the great reports from those who attended the game. |
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Post by andyl on Apr 5, 2017 9:18:28 GMT
I would if I had any😂 Chill Joanna, I've followed the good times and the bad for long enough to be allowed to have my say once in a while but if it makes you feel better, I apologise unreservedly for my negativity 😞 What a lovely, civilised post RFTR. Thank you. It does make me feel better.....as has a good night's sleep after a stirring victory! Thanks too for the great reports from those who attended the game. Southend is calm and serene as viewed from the end of the pier- two BWFC fans sitting peacefully euphoric-must enjoy this feeling  |
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Post by thekraken on Apr 5, 2017 9:27:33 GMT
I expect you'll be heading off to the Henry Higgins chippy again before you leave for home....
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Post by OohMac on Apr 5, 2017 9:32:29 GMT
Glad we sorted that out then. Again you have to credit Parky for the meanest defence in the league.
I had a little preview of the fixtures to try and stick a target for us. As its national week I will attempt a metaphor. Firstly Bradford who are the outsiders but coming up the far side with a bit of pace have a trip to Bramall Lane. A win there are the championship is back on for us. A loss and its play offs. They need to take maximum points in all games I feel. Fleetwood looked strong but made some mistakes leading into the last stretch which has kissed them yards. They are a lot closer of being swallowed by the chasing pack then joining the finishing pair. There game in hand is against Oxford tonight who can play football and will be sore from Wembley. Last time we got beat at Wembley we went and beat Arsenal the week after. If they win they keep some pressure on but a loss and its game over. If they do lose though it's not unrealistic to say that they may drop out of the playoffs altogether. Crazy league. Cod Army also have 4 away games out of the 6!
Leads us to the front pair. Sheff Utd who have jumped all obstacles well and look steady against Bolton who have jumped erratically needed to be straightened up but now look on pace and finishing strongly.
Neither can afford a mistake now. Then it's a dash to the line....
Who's your money on?
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Post by natfan on Apr 5, 2017 10:28:32 GMT
Southend is calm and serene as viewed from the end of the pier- two BWFC fans sitting peacefully euphoric-must enjoy this feeling.
Fantastic photo. Just waiting for WS63 to complain about the foreground being all in shadow and the fact that we cannot see the two Bolton fans!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 5, 2017 12:23:37 GMT
Yes, seems about as fluky as normal (!!):- "Beevers fired home from close range, after a Filipe Morais corner had only been half-cleared, as the centre-back netted for the fifth away game in succession. Bolton have now won six of their last seven outings and were able to see off a Shrimpers side who had manager Phil Brown sent from the dugout 10 minutes from time. The Trotters had the better of the first half with Gary Madine heading a right-wing cross from Morais against the right-hand upright, before Southend skipper Michael Timlin also sent an effort against his own post after goalkeeper Christian Walton had done well to deny Adam Le Fondre. Southend goalkeeper Walton then did well to deny Max Clayton twice in quick succession before Beevers struck right at the death." To be honest, WS63, I don't think you ARE a fan, as you lack all confidence in and support for the team and its manager despite all the evidence that confounds your gloom. Every team has an off-day or two in rising to the top of a division but, from the state we were in when PP took over, the whole club has achieved miracles, as The Kraken points out above. The facts speak for themselves. First aims for the season are almost complete now. See if you can find it within yourself to give credit worthy of the name of "fan", and we'll see if you are right or not about next season, but you can't really ask for any more than we have achieved for this season. Look joanna, there's no questioning my fan status thank you, and I've suffered many times over the years. I actually recall being negative about Colyle, Freedman and to a slightly lesser degree Lennon, whilst you wanted people to be patient despite it being perfectly obvious they were all failures. I have accepted and stated on here, that Parky has done a great job with limited resources and has to be congratulated for what he's done. Yes I'm delighted about promotion (hopefully) but I'm not blind and please don't confuse negativity with reality. We have been incredibly fortunate to win many of our games and keeping Parky and playing this way, I am absolutely certain we will come back down. That's my view and if you don't like it, tough I'm afraid. As you say we'll see next year if Parky's still here which personally I don't think he will be. |
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Post by andyl on Apr 5, 2017 12:27:21 GMT
Met two bwfc fans at the end of the pier perhaps father and son. Took a photo for them with scarf held high. All excited and happy, doing the sums for promotion. One win could do it now? We'll see!
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 5, 2017 12:31:17 GMT
Yes, seems about as fluky as normal (!!):- "Beevers fired home from close range, after a Filipe Morais corner had only been half-cleared, as the centre-back netted for the fifth away game in succession. Bolton have now won six of their last seven outings and were able to see off a Shrimpers side who had manager Phil Brown sent from the dugout 10 minutes from time. The Trotters had the better of the first half with Gary Madine heading a right-wing cross from Morais against the right-hand upright, before Southend skipper Michael Timlin also sent an effort against his own post after goalkeeper Christian Walton had done well to deny Adam Le Fondre. Southend goalkeeper Walton then did well to deny Max Clayton twice in quick succession before Beevers struck right at the death." To be honest, WS63, I don't think you ARE a fan, as you lack all confidence in and support for the team and its manager despite all the evidence that confounds your gloom. Every team has an off-day or two in rising to the top of a division but, from the state we were in when PP took over, the whole club has achieved miracles, as The Kraken points out above. The facts speak for themselves. First aims for the season are almost complete now. See if you can find it within yourself to give credit worthy of the name of "fan", and we'll see if you are right or not about next season, but you can't really ask for any more than we have achieved for this season. Pack it on you two We are all friends on this forum, if you wanna thrash it out, go on the BN and join forces with Lancashire Pensioner👍🏼 Let's all raise a glass at a win and agree to disagree.. Without the name calling eh?? COYWM Fine by me rftr but this board is for Wanderers fans opinions. That's why I like it, good, knowledgable posters and informed comment, not always agreed. I don't do name calling rftr but it appears that Joanna has a view that only posts which she agrees with should be made. I'm not being negative, another fantastic win last night and nobody more happy about it than me. I agree though, COYWM. |
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Post by OohMac on Apr 5, 2017 15:37:56 GMT
She already apologised for that though.
Better just leaving it now and concentrating on remaining season. The post season and pre season should definitely have some interesting topics.
Which players to keep? Which to bin? Will Ken sell? Who will buy? Will we finally get rid of Spin n win? Who can we attract and how will we get on next season?
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for some entertainment. 3 draws and a win (just) in the last 4 at home has to be down to how teams set up to play us at the Macron. But we have won 12 at home and 11 at home so fairly consistent home or away. 
