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Post by davidm on Oct 18, 2016 9:44:04 GMT
Difficult one this tonight.
Millwall have had a poorish start but beat Northampton on Saturday.
I think it may well depend on the manager’s attitude.
He will probably play defensive and hope to play on the break, as at Swindon. It worked there so let’s hope that Wheater, Beevers & co can stand firm and, somehow, one of the forwards/midfielders can take a chance.
I’ll be happy with a 1-1.
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Post by greydad on Oct 18, 2016 10:24:05 GMT
Not able to go tonight, but I hope all those that make it have a productive and enjoyable trip.I would think defence and midfield would remain unchanged from Saturday, but whether the manager might want to rotate things up front with Clough and Madine still not long recovered from injury I'm not sure... he might decide to play Henry rather than Ameobi, but whatever he decides there is added recovery time before Bury. I certainly wouldn't change the system that has worked well these past 2 games, but as at Swindon it will be vital to use subs effectively. A difficult game yes, but one which the Wanderers are capable of winning if the team continues it's recent improvement...let's hope at least to avoid defeat and maintain the momentum gained over the last couple of weeks...if that means a more ruthless approach then so be it, but whatever the tactics and selection good luck Whites!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 13:07:29 GMT
Difficult one this tonight.
Millwall have had a poorish start but beat Northampton on Saturday.
I think it may well depend on the manager’s attitude.
He will probably play defensive and hope to play on the break, as at Swindon. It worked there so let’s hope that Wheater, Beevers & co can stand firm and, somehow, one of the forwards/midfielders can take a chance.
I’ll be happy with a 1-1. I think there will be at least one change in midfield ,but still I'll go for 0-1 .
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 18, 2016 13:12:10 GMT
Well personally I'd like Parky to keep the same side as Saturday. I don't think chopping and changing is at all necessary unless through injury so if Derik has to replace Thorpe tonight then so be it. That said, one change I would make though is Madine who for me contributes little. That would be a permanent change too as I think he's a complete waste of a shirt. I'm sure Anderson alongside Clough would carry more threat and at least it would mean we're not lumping the ball forward all the time. I'm sure some will disagree but judging by Saturday and more recent performances we do have the personnel to play football rather than hoofball. If he does keep things more or less the same tonight I think we'll win so I'll go for 1-2 to the Whites.
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Post by thekraken on Oct 18, 2016 14:07:13 GMT
I will be there tonight. Last time I went to the New Den it turned out to be OC's last game. Eagles missed a penalty, Henry, Beevers and Trotter played for Millwall and we let in a last minute goal for a 2-1 defeat.
Not expecting a fast flowing game but our solid defence should ensure 0-0, 1-1 or 1-0 either way. Hopefully, Clough will get another couple and prove me wrong.
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Post by davidm on Oct 18, 2016 20:41:04 GMT
2-0. Cracking result
Well done
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Post by greydad on Oct 18, 2016 20:58:01 GMT
Absolutely...the balance of the team is looking really good, shame that Thorpe suffered his injury but it seems that Derik was an able deputy. Let's hope for a similar result at Bury, they are enduring a dreadful run similar to that which the Whites suffered through September and early October....well done Wanderers, and those travelling 400 or so who made the trip!
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Post by Trotter on Oct 18, 2016 21:01:12 GMT
That's 4 away wins which equals the same away wins for the last 2 previous seasons - well done lads
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Post by Trotter on Oct 18, 2016 21:21:54 GMT
Millwall had scored in each of their last 25 games, until Wheater & Beevers & Co turned up that is.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 18, 2016 21:45:46 GMT
I'm ashamed to say I didn't even know they were playing tonight. Too busy watching Spurs v Leverkusen to notice Great win though and joint second in the league Can the come back be on?? Can we swap with Wigan for next term?? COYWM
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Post by thekraken on Oct 18, 2016 22:45:16 GMT
Yes, a great win and two great goals, but between Ameobi’s 3rd minute left footed strike into the top corner and Wheater’s 86th minute crisp volley from Beever’s headed knock down from a corner it was pretty average stuff. After the early goal we didn’t press much and apart from a neat Clough Madine one-two which brought a good save from Clough’s shot we posed little threat. In the second half the 400 started to grumble as we showed little ambition going forward and they pressed hard but without creating much and Howard only had one difficult save to make in the whole match. There was not a lot to cheer about. Before he was subbed Ameobi only touched the ball a couple of times and in the whole half we only had one shot and that was Wheater’s goal.
The defence was excellent and will be the part of the team that keeps us in the promotion places but at the other end it looks like it will always be a struggle. I think Clough lacks that bit of pace that is needed to make him a great player rather than a good one. But we work hard and fight hard throughout the team and if we could score more goals we’d walk this league.
So I’m very happy with the win, which was really a comfortable one in the end, but a bit disappointed with the quality of the performance. Maybe it's just that I need to set my sights lower in Division 1.
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Post by davidm on Oct 19, 2016 8:35:55 GMT
......... it was pretty average stuff. ......... a bit disappointed with the quality of the performance. I think that that is how it's going to be this season, Ian
We have a manager (a relatively successful manager) who concentrates first and foremost on defending. It worked well last night from the result point of view but, I agree, it is not entertaining.
I think, as you say, we need to lower our expectations in terms of quality of football and just look to get out of this league.
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Post by Phil from Smithills on Oct 19, 2016 9:02:15 GMT
I am constantly reminded by my mate at the Macron, that we are in reality in the 3rd division, my criticism of lack of movement, the inability to back your mate up when attacking so to give him an option, some poor passing, lack of ball control, lack of vision on moves doing 1-2's.,he tells me that I have to expect the lack of football skills at this level, but I do remind him that I am ambitious for our team and demand a better standard of football, and as a Wanderers supporter through and through, I get frustrated at the standard of play, but no doubt all that would be forgotten if we get promoted.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 19, 2016 9:52:57 GMT
I think that's true of any of us who have watched the Whites over many years. Having seen the likes of JJ, Youri, Hierro and co it probably does spoil you and give you illusions of grandeur but that said, like you, I don't think we should lower our expectations to those of others in this league. We are better than that, expect better than that and if we let our expectations slip we can't expect to prosper. In fact, I genuinely think that our lack of acceptance and public criticism of Parky's early hoof ball tactics urged him to re-think things. Maybe Bradford fans would put up with that but we certainly won't. All we have to do now is curb his sometimes overly defensive nature and we will have both solidity and entertainment. Who says criticism has to be negative?? 😀
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Post by Pedro on Oct 19, 2016 16:09:36 GMT
When you see both goals and then see the stats. 4 shots for the whole game and 3 on target it is so bloody obvious what they need to do. Get into space and have a go instead of trying to walk it in. Good to see what Ameobi is capable of. MORE of the same please from the rest of you. Well done Wheater.
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