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Post by andyl on Apr 30, 2016 6:17:14 GMT
Is there a game today? Why am I on a train? I went to Hull in December. One of many really even games seen and winnable but for lack of goalscorers. Holding did very well at left back. Some months later the context is much changed. It would be good to see a win?  ? Even a goal? |
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Post by OohMac on Apr 30, 2016 11:03:07 GMT
I do wonder where any hint of optimism Is from but I do fancy us for a win today. 1-0 Wheater header maybe.
If I detach myself and think logically we have Zero
Chance and if Villa were playing arsenal I would lump on the gunners and you couldnt tempt me to back Villa at 20/1 but with Bolton. Well it's just different.
I'm disappointed with Emile leading the line, but he's been he least of our problems, I genuinely don't believe that Silva and Madine are injured. Think Phillips has told them to jog on. But building a young team with some stalwarts around them is what I've said we need so it's a bit hypocritical for me to have a pop now.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 30, 2016 11:08:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2016 13:34:14 GMT
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its a WIN yes its no joke
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Post by OohMac on Apr 30, 2016 13:43:55 GMT
I do wonder where any hint of optimism Is from but I do fancy us for a win today. 1-0 Wheater header maybe. If I detach myself and think logically we have Zero Chance and if Villa were playing arsenal I would lump on the gunners and you couldnt tempt me to back Villa at 20/1 but with Bolton. Well it's just different. I'm disappointed with Emile leading the line, but he's been he least of our problems, I genuinely don't believe that Silva and Madine are injured. Think Phillips has told them to jog on. But building a young team with some stalwarts around them is what I've said we need so it's a bit hypocritical for me to have a pop now. Well I can't say fairer than that. When Wheaters header for cleared off the line, good decision red, I contemplated buying a scratch card. Poor game but we did what was needed. Another debut. More young players. Clean sheet and Derick finding his inner Ivan. Proud again. Seriously give Jimmy a chance |
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Post by megsontilidie on Apr 30, 2016 13:59:28 GMT
well that was a bit more like it. finally we hung on for a win. JP deserved it.
when Hull were pushing in the last 5 mins and extra time..i'm thinking..don't let it slip again. Wheats was immense at that point..blocks and headers everywhere.
don't know why he didn't make the top 3 in POTY..in preference to Derik.
another clean sheet. more experience for even more kids. and built on the good performance last week at Cardiff.
Hull were slow out of the blocks. hardly a threat in first 30 mins or first half at all, bar that free kick scraping our bar late on in first half.
finally reached the 30 point mark.
thought Wilson had a good game. nice assist/cross for goal. 1 or 2 good tackles on their key man..Snodgrass.
Mavies...had another of his TV games...not exceptional ,but created our best chance in 1st half for Pratley, and generally tried about 50% more than his non-tv games. thinking back I think we've only lost once in our tv games.... draw Preston away, draw blackburn away. beat Blackburn home... Beat Hull home, and only beat by Boro to a very late goal. 4 clean sheets out of 5 games. ridiculous !!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 30, 2016 14:24:56 GMT
Yeah I'm warming to the JP PR idea.
It would seem a bit daft to try to draft someone in that has only got the players on display today to work with, it might as well be the chaps that are in the chair already. We can clearly see some form of progression even through the draws and defeats.
In the days of yore, being in the championship and with a few bob to spend here and there, I'd have loved to be able to tempt the likes of Johnny Walters, Peter Crouch and Charlie Adams over to the ReeMac, that would have been a possibility had we stayed up and with the right manager to tempt them. If still ask Nolan to come back as a player with the option of grooming him into the Wanderers hot seat one day
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Post by andyl on Apr 30, 2016 14:40:29 GMT
Well we sign off at home with an encouraging win and we were worth it. Pratley and Danns had bad misses and Wheater a header that saw at least a part of the ball cross the line to my eye anyway-no doubt TV clarified? could have easily been two or three nil?
I thought we were better organised defensively. The full backs maintained a better balance of positional play and organised around Derik in front of the excellent Holding and even more excellent Wheater (keep him?)and our defensive play was at times first rate. Perhaps Hull didn't start some better players and perhaps they were taking care to avoid problems for the play offs but for all that at times we looked the better team with the qualification that we lacked width and much of a threat upfront. That said Emile was again a presence for sixty minutes and Dawson did not have an easy ride.
I think the influence of Peter Reid was clear to see as was his touch line passion. As his advisory role has developed I do wonder if he might not be as good a managerial option as others touted?
Very encouragingly I thought Garratt and as substitute Newell. Both made good contributions.Full marks to Jimmy for their selection
I thought Pratley was awful till the last fifteen but Danns gave a good account of himself. Mark Davies made one good run in each half and set up Pratley's sitter.Clough did less but he set up Danns' chance.
It was an end is season game but better to end on an upbeat.Dobbie did what Dobbie does to win the game. Couldn't understand the substitution but cheered it when he scored and credit to Wilson too.
Amos 6 Wilson 7 Holding 8 Wheater 9 Garratt 6 Derik 8 Davies 5 Pratley 3 Danns 6 Heskey 6 Clough 4 Newell 5 Dobbie 4
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Post by bonaparte on Apr 30, 2016 14:48:34 GMT
Agree with most of your analysis Andy, except Pratley only 1 for me, missed a sitter, fell over in the box, made his usual blind alley, lose the ball runs. All effort no result. Newell did better for his few minutes than a 5, won some headers and played with commitment 6 for me.
Joanna, Pratley was awful again today,why he stayed on the pitch I do not know. Not for me next season.
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Post by joanna on Apr 30, 2016 16:13:11 GMT
You don't appear to have noticed who was voted Man of the Match on Sky.....yep, your beloved Darren!
Also Mavies did a couple of superb runs that no one else on the pitch could have achieved.
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Post by andyl on Apr 30, 2016 20:41:16 GMT
Sky must have been voting for worst man of match. Until one or two runs late on Pratley was dire. His missed chance was topped only by his attempt to win a penalty. My main criticism at the moment concerns the amount of time he spends on the floor falling over and losing balance.
No he most definitely was not man of the match. I don't know who Sky had making the decision but he had an odd view of the match!
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Post by bonaparte on May 1, 2016 7:25:52 GMT
Joanna,
There are lies damn lies and statistics.
However, I do give them some credence.
According to whoscored.com, DP scored 6.8 overall, only Heskey and Clough of the starters scored less. 6.62 and 6.08 respectively. Their activities depend largely on the service they receive.
Wilson showed out top, with 8.09.
He made 26 passes, 8th highest but at 61.8% accurate was 9th in that list.
I could go on, being a bit of a nerd.
Agree about Davies though, but also agree with others, a TV shop window performance.
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Post by OohMac on May 1, 2016 9:35:17 GMT
Pratley Man of the match? Who does he know working for Sky? No player was awful - Amos looked nervy, Clough didn't do much, but Praltey offers very little these days and yesterday wasn't much better. How he got MoM over Wilson and Wheater or Derick I'm not sure.
Not sure how you can score Dobbie a 4 either? Came on and scored with a very nice finish, ran the lines and helped defensively. Some players seem to now be playing for contracts both here and elsewhere. Obviously Wheater will need to take a big pay cut but I would be very interested in him staying
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 1, 2016 12:13:36 GMT
I'm not setting a thread up for this but what's happened to Bogdan?? He's not even reserve to the reserve!!! Is he injured or just forgotten about??
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 14:24:32 GMT
I'm not setting a thread up for this but what's happened to Bogdan?? He's not even reserve to the reserve!!! Is he injured or just forgotten about?? Looks like he's been put on the bad boy step , seems that chungy has had the same treatment ,only Ream seems to be getting games on a regular basis so much for bettering your self . |
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