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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 23, 2016 22:00:54 GMT
I'm sure Woollery's pace would have given us something different but as usual no reaction from Lennon. We'll never win games with this set up. I'm just totally gob smacked by Lennon's total lack of ability to deliver, I really expected better from him. Like I've said many times before, our squad is far better than both performances and league position suggest. I just can't have the apologists for him maintaining he was conned into the job and hasn't been given resources. He's had plenty but has used then badly, can clearly not motivate a team and for me the sooner he's gone the better. We're as good as down with him so what have we to lose by sending him packing?
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Post by davidm on Feb 23, 2016 22:04:13 GMT
57% possession which produced only 3 shots and just 1 on target (Birmingham 13 shots/ 5 on target)
How pathetic is that?
We cannot continue playing the same one-paced negatively minded players.
There is no pace in the side. There is definitely no passing ability. Just sideways/backwards passing.
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Post by davidm on Feb 23, 2016 22:08:53 GMT
We're as good as down with him so what have we to lose by sending him packing? Absolutely agree.
We are down so why not plan for next season. Play the players who will be here next season and who we will need to build the side round not the overpaid carthorses who are just passing the time between now and the end of the season.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 23, 2016 22:17:49 GMT
No surprises at all. Think lennon will be happy enough with that. Looked combative. But we all know that this is roll the dice time and he refuses to do it.
Still no away wins, still probably the worst away record in the country and still clueless.
I still hate Dougie but he was better than this idiot. The only chance we have of getting a win is if Neil's regulars all get injured.
His man management is shocking. Blasting his keeper before this week, continually plays his regulars, plays people out of position.
Had to sort out the defence and brought in Wilson, Osede, Prince, Pisano and Casado! And we are STILL playing Vela out of position and Dervite! Shocking.
First job Dean is get Lennon out, or were doing, Lennon is a "administration" personified
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Post by andyl on Feb 23, 2016 22:45:47 GMT
Anyone minded to sit on the fence should now need no convincing that Neil Lennon is not going to succeed at BWFC.
He began sensibly enough with the five man midfield I've argued for.And we began brightly with Vela prominent in midfield and several strong passing moves. Bizarrely he had opted for Clough to play alone upfront when Woolery had done well at Wolves. But we were on top for 15 minutes or so. Then they asserted themselves more and took a grip.
They scored a simple counter attack. Poor ball by Feeney ,Derik upfield Moxey came across and missed,Holding was beaten at the near post. 0-1.
We lost heart but had a great stroke of fortune:injury to Dervite who had begun poorly. Derik moved inside and never looked back. But oddly he took our best midfielder Vela to right back and brought Danns on rather than Wilson.
That said Danns galvanised us briefly. Mark Davies missed a good near post chance, Holding planted a header over the bar and an almighty melee led to nothing. Then Danns fired high and wide. They were one up from one attack
In the second half we began brightly and had a couple of promising attacks. Rowett reacted and brought two subs on. This killed us off in midfield. With the crowd baying for change Neil did nothing. Woolery remained on the bench. At 83 minutes he removed Spearing our best player and put Dobbie and Silva on. Even then he put Silva on the right and moved the seemingly unsubbable Feeney to the left. Birmingham had no attacks whatever apart from forcing Rachubka to one decent save but won at a canter as we threw in the towel. Disgraceful!
Rachubka 6 Derik 7 Holding 6 Moxey 4 Vela 6 Spearing 7 Pratley 4 Davies 4 Clough 4 Feeney 2 Lennon 2 Danns 5
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Post by andyl on Feb 23, 2016 23:25:58 GMT
No one should hold their breath re survival in the championship. The team could be good enough I think but there is no leadership
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Post by davidm on Feb 23, 2016 23:36:48 GMT
I'm totally lost as to what our tactics are these days. We are in dire straits and need to win most of our matches. A draw is of little benefit now!
So we play 5ft nothing Clough up front on his own when surely he should play in the no. 10 role. No support for him at all. So we create nothing. The fastest player in our team, and the scorer of our last winning goal, is left on the bench.
Are we playing to hang on and grab a goal on the break? If we are, it is ridiculous as we cannot defend well enough to do that nor have we got a midfield that can play at pace.
In a match that we had to get something out of, we trail 1-0 for 50+ minutes with no substitutions.
Unfortunately, the after match interview with Mr Lennon seemed to cover just his fall out with Madine. Did anyone ask what his tactics were and why it took 84 minutes to bring a sub on.
I despair at what is happening
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Post by andyl on Feb 24, 2016 0:09:02 GMT
It was Ok to batten down the hatches in the first half but that strategy obliges a step up in the second half. We didn't take it . So one sloppy breakaway as usual saw us off. The players were all limp but the manager tonight was the limpest on view. The crowd at the end let him know in no uncertain terms. If and it's a big if Deano can afford it he will have to bite the bullet. We are quite leaderless on and off the field. That was a really lacklustre performance
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Post by Pedro on Feb 24, 2016 1:54:53 GMT
Listened to whole game on Tower FM and have to agree with all points made above. Commentators scathing about Manager's "tactics" and especially screaming for subs which never appeared until 7 minutes from time. Come on Deano - get rid asap.
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Post by greydad on Feb 24, 2016 10:13:11 GMT
Last night was another missed opportunity to gain some ground on the teams above us...Birmingham were not that good, but they did manage one quick breakaway which won the game. I can't argue with the general consensus regarding use of subs....both QPR and Birmingham are not blessed with pace in defence, which makes the manager's reluctance to use Woolery all the more baffling. I appreciate that none of us as supporters are privy to what transpires on the training ground, but if players with pace and flair, however mercurial (Silva), surely it is worth giving them more game time. Unless some of these 'combative' away games transform close defeats into at least a draw, and the drawn games similarly into victories, the 7 point gap will not be clawed back...Deano talked positively about not having any regrets come May. but last night was one of a considerable number of games this season that could/should have achieved better results . The blame is not entirely at the manager's door ( e.g. losing possession in the oppositions corner with 30 seconds left!) , but there must surely be regrets pertaining to the deployment of the squad and use of subs. I don't suppose that we as supporters will ever learn the full circumstances regarding the number of players who have become marginalised or not given enough game time, but the regularity with which some of the squad 'disappear' and/or fall foul of management, needs addressing and any 'bad apples' dispensed with asap, if the fault lies purely with the players. The manager is rapidly losing the support and sympathy of the fans, which really is a shame after the start he made at Birmingham last season, but the last 3 games have perpetuated the season long issue of points being thrown away...Neil may not be able to prevent silly errors on the pitch, but he and his staff can surely address some of the team's problems with greater tactical acumen and deployment of playing resources.
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Post by modfishy on Feb 24, 2016 10:47:16 GMT
Good post greydad, I couldn't agree more. I see D Holdsworth has said Lennon 'deserves a chance' to me that reads as leaving it until the end of the season, if he somehow manages to keep us up then I would imagine they will give him another shot (hopefully with some more funds) next season, if he doesn't then I think they will get a fresh face in.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 24, 2016 10:59:38 GMT
Sacking Lennon = COST Relegation = Inevitable Answer = Stick with Lennon!!! That's not my choice of course I think that's the general consensus at BWFC. It's my view that the new hierarchy look resigned to the inevitable drop as they must also surely realise that the appointment of Mourinho or Guardiola would get absolutely nowhere with these misfits we have on show, although they would play them and guide them to a more respectable 3rd from bottom position rather than rock bottom. Any transfer embargo being lifted would be too little too late as we've still got no money so then would have to loan players in. Who could we loan that would stave off relegation for us if Lennon is still in charge?? If we signed the out of work Adam Johnson, Lennon would play him in defence (not saying we sign him by the way) To go a full season without an away win is completely unforgivable and Davies and the late Gartside are 1 million percent to blame for not acting sooner in riding us of the useless Lennon. Next season prediction Bolton 1 Northampton 4
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Post by joanna on Feb 24, 2016 11:01:15 GMT
I can imagine that any lift in the club's spirits following the probable takeover would have been negated by the fall-out from the Madine incident. Just another in the long line of reasons for shoulders to slump, culminating in what you guys above say was a a limp performance at Brum. I wonder if the players sided with their manager or with the foul-mouthed striker. The Sky News reporter at the game said that Bolton were undeterred, spirited and pressing hard after conceding....words that don't tally with the views above. Certainly for most of the season, the spirit has been good but only huge resilience now will save us from relegation.
I would like to know (from those who find Neil no better than Dougie), who you would choose to replace NL. Please don't say Nigel Pearson who is a complete bully and an embarrassment to any club that employs him.(See interview with Pat Murphy and his subsequent sacking) He and Madine would have ended up in a wrestling match last Monday!
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Post by spanishjonny on Feb 24, 2016 13:54:35 GMT
Yes, Neil Lennons time is coming to an end, but, and I know it's a big 'but' we are still only 7 points from safety, if we were 7 points from automatic promotion we wouldn't be giving up yet Dervite went off injured last night so Derick could get his chance, him and Holding might improve the defence. If the embargo is lifted we could still strengthen the team enough to just keep us in this league It is essential that we stay in the Championship, to change the manager now may do more harm than good, let's try to stay and have a clear out at the season end
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Post by OohMac on Feb 24, 2016 14:04:49 GMT
Neil Lennon has got very little to answer to then. If we can't criticise him many signings because he never had any money(heads gone. Big squad already and he added several sub par players instead of signing 1 or 2 with basic quality) We're not allowed to say he should be doing better because the players are so poor? And we're not allowed to say we want him out in case his replacement is as bad.
Neil pissed up the little money we had on players who never played. Signing a whole new back 5 and not playing any. Instead he plays a lad from the youth team who is his best performer. Lesson there give these lads a chance!
Neil in ANY other club would have gone 4 months ago! No away wins in a league where anyone can beat anyone! The worst players in every single week. The same system that has never worked.
I genuinely believe he's waiting for his pay day. Who to bring in? Any one with a coaching badge could better prepare a team.
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