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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 9, 2016 21:05:49 GMT
From what I can gather, only fans who have paid their £10 can be nominated for a position on the board and they would have to be seconded, only the fans that have paid their £10 can vote for said people. But it looks like they are putting conditions on who might be able to stand for election ie. have the required skill set to hold the various positions.. Have I missed something in the emails that have come from BWST, rtf?? If not, where is the info regarding nominations/ seconding & skill sets coming from. One of my objections about BWST so far is that there is no info coming out but maybe I am missing it. The BWFCST Steering Group is committed to moving towards a fully accountable election process with full transparency and to involving as many Trust members as possible in voting to elect the first BWFCST board. In order to achieve this, we are working with Supporters Direct regarding all aspects of the process, including the structure and constitution of the board, identification of skill sets required for all board positions and the mechanisms for proposal and seconding of suitable candidates for selection by the members. Further information regarding the election procedure can be viewed here in the Supporters Direct Election Policy document. This was taken from the bwfcst website, under the news section, update on election progress, first paragraph.
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Post by davidm on Mar 9, 2016 21:21:14 GMT
Thanks for that.
If I pay my £10 perhaps I can nominate you or AndyL
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 9, 2016 22:25:14 GMT
Going off who they have on their pseudo board, I can't speak for Andy, but even though I may have skills a plenty I doubt I would be considered suitably qualified
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Post by andyl on Mar 10, 2016 11:32:09 GMT
Had a really illuminating. discussion in fanzone. Skills,experiences etc..who is to say what skills officials need personally to have rather than call on. I suspect many of us could make some sortt of contribution and collectively have a range of skills and surely that's the whole point of democratic membership. None of this requires representative governance. It could almost work with mass assembly and officials elected annually by lot in the original democratic model. I worry about lawyers,bankers,businessmen representing my interests..or politically experienced locals. The ST could ever so easily become an oligarchy
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 23, 2016 16:48:01 GMT
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Post by Pedro on Mar 23, 2016 19:42:49 GMT
Yep. Paid my dues. I will be there out of curiosity mainly. Will I see you there again RTF?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 24, 2016 7:32:40 GMT
I will be there Pedro so there's a fair chance you will.
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Post by Pedro on Mar 29, 2016 22:53:16 GMT
485 tickets left and a request for new owners to attend has not been replied to so far.
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Post by davidm on Mar 31, 2016 22:05:53 GMT
Interesting meeting tonight. I am one who hasn't as yet paid my £10 so I went with a fair amount of cynicism. After 15 mins, I was totally underwhelmed. Pretty deadly, dull stuff that told us little but it did improve. Marc Iles' report in the Bolton News covers things well, more or less word for word. A few interesting points:- The Trust had £7M lined up at one stage. The Trust are not looking for a seat on the board. No representatives of the new owners were present. The Trust put in a bid for "preferred bidder" status because Trevor Birch asked them to? ? One thing that came up in face to face conversation was that members of the steering group will be standing for election. This goes against what was said when the Steering Group was set up. The final question that was asked from the floor was the best in that the questioner could not see what the strategy of the Trust was. What was the purpose? After some floundering came the comment that ensured that I will be paying my £10. The Trust wants to set up ready to step in the next time the money dries up and we are in the mire.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Mar 31, 2016 22:59:48 GMT
Hi davidm, me and Pedro were there too. I don't know that the answer to that question, which was a very good one, would have prompted me to pay my £10, if I hadn't already paid. If what you said about the steering group standing for election to the main board, I can't see many "ordinary" fans getting a look in, apart from being a part of some sub group.
I am disappointed that they haven't made more effort to contact more people who have filled in an expression of interest form, how do they know what skills they are ignoring because people didn't fill in sufficient detail. How hard would it be to send an email, seeing as they have these young IT whizz kids on board.
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Post by davidm on Apr 1, 2016 6:41:48 GMT
Hi davidm, me and Pedro were there too. I don't know that the answer to that question, which was a very good one, would have prompted me to pay my £10, if I hadn't already paid. If what you said about the steering group standing for election to the main board, I can't see many "ordinary" fans getting a look in, apart from being a part of some sub group. I am disappointed that they haven't made more effort to contact more people who have filled in an expression of interest form, how do they know what skills they are ignoring because people didn't fill in sufficient detail. How hard would it be to send an email, seeing as they have these young IT whizz kids on board. Hi rtf,
My point at the end about paying the £10 may have not come across too clear.
My biggest worry at the moment is that I cannot see where Sports Shield and Inner Circle get their funding from and how they can sustain the club.
If in 2 years time it all goes belly-up, I would hope that there will already be some organisation(s) , BWFCST being one, who can urgently get involved and avoid the nightmare that we have endured for the past few months. From last night, we were told that the Trust had 8 companies who had £7M to invest if needed. So, if it is needed in 2 years time we need a strong Trust to step in. So my £10 will support that. Other than that I don’t think I would be paying.
For the rest of the night, I was disappointed.
- The new owners obviously have no interest in the Trust as no one turned up from them. The Trust doesn’t appear to have had contact with Sports Shield or Inner Circle. I would hope that they could have shed some light on who Sports Shield and Inner Circle actually are, particularly Inner Circle.
- The Trust have no desire for a seat on the board. What a stupid answer just to say “No” to that question.
- The elections seem way off. They couldn’t answer the question about nominations and how (who?) will get the ballot paper down to a manageable size. As I said, from face to face chats, I understand the current Steering Group are proposing to stand for election and also understand that to be nominated to stand someone will need 20 supporters to second you on the nomination papers.
- What do we read into the “Trevor Birch asked us to apply to be preferred bidders”? Too close to the previous regime?
Overall I was underwhelmed.
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 1, 2016 9:56:52 GMT
I think Trevor Birch asking the Trust to apply was simply getting more time for Sports Shield to buy the club.(call me a cynic). Altho I support the trust and have paid my £10 it is very naive of the trust to think the new owners will pay any attention to the Trust without a seat on the board (I asked the question). I can understand why the new owners declined to attend,some searching questions would have been asked...such as,,,,who owns the stadium/Hotel,,,because if its the new owners they got a hell of a deal....if its not the new owners then ,,,,we could be in serious trouble in the near future
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Post by Pedro on May 15, 2016 12:50:12 GMT
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Post by Pedro on May 15, 2016 12:50:53 GMT
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Post by realtrottersforever on May 16, 2016 16:48:08 GMT
Re: the 12th man survey in the responses in Q10 that are available here www.bwfcst.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/12th-man-Survey-Q10-Results.pdf did anyone make a comment. This one was mine at 146.....The supporter's trust should be open and transparent. Members should be kept informed of any decisions taken.Decisions taken recently and the way they were taken have reflected badly on the trust and led to many supporters questioning the motives behind such decisions. They may have been taken for all the right reasons but they weren't taken openly and this didn't go down well with some supporters. This may have had a bearing on the fact that many who pledged their support initially have not converted that to full membership. Supporters have already been treated as persona non grata by the club, they don't want this to happen with the trust. Anybody else make a comment?
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