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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 26, 2015 17:11:08 GMT
Feel sorry for the 1800 or so fans that went today. Not just because of the result but the M62 is shut from Jct 21 Rochdale to Middleton We're all dooooomed
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 26, 2015 17:31:14 GMT
Mows the perfect time to rid the club of Lennon.
23 games gone, 23 left, potential 69 points left, enough to stave off relegation, I would hope.
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Post by Trotter on Dec 26, 2015 17:43:03 GMT
It's time to go I'm afraid, I was confident and hopeful Lennon would be the one to take the club forward unfortunately he is doing the opposite, very sad day today for our club.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 26, 2015 18:11:49 GMT
Yes I'm afraid it's getting harder every week to find anything to support Lennon. It's ok to keep blaming the players but there just doesn't seem any constructive plan and the same players keep making the same pathetic mistakes. I still maintain that we have a squad far more competent than the current results and performances suggest. If that's true then it can only be poor management causing the problem. Sadly I have to believe Lennon is sack proof as we don't have the money to pay him off. They could put him on garden leave and use JP and DL and who could think he could do worse? Relegation looks certain now but that might turn out to be the least of our problems. I'm minded of a section of Big Sam's book "To be sustainable a club has to grow steadily without risking it all collapsing and sending the club into a spiral from which it may never recover". Obviously Gartside didn't listen.
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Post by bonaparte on Dec 26, 2015 18:22:28 GMT
I have not been to the game today. So far no one who has been has expressed an opinion. The result speaks volumes. Marc Iles wishes he could have slunk away before the end. Please Mr Lennon do the right thing. Only administration looms and relegation. Sorry, no other scenario seems possible. AndyL were you there?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 26, 2015 18:25:56 GMT
Yes I'm afraid it's getting harder every week to find anything to support Lennon. It's ok to keep blaming the players but there just doesn't seem any constructive plan and the same players keep making the same pathetic mistakes. I still maintain that we have a squad far more competent than the current results and performances suggest. If that's true then it can only be poor management causing the problem. Sadly I have to believe Lennon is sack proof as we don't have the money to pay him off. They could put him on garden leave and use JP and DL and who could think he could do worse? Relegation looks certain now but that might turn out to be the least of our problems. I'm minded of a section of Big Sam's book "To be sustainable a club has to grow steadily without risking it all collapsing and sending the club into a spiral from which it may never recover". Obviously Gartside didn't listen. The way things are going for BSA, he might be the chap the gets us promotion from League One next season as he doesn't seem to be endearing himself to the vocal Mackem's and his exit could be sooner than one thinks!! That's a pipe dream of course and we'd need money for that, but football is strange and can have s tendency to surprise when you least expect it!! Nice dream though for now
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Post by Pedro on Dec 26, 2015 18:51:24 GMT
Oh dear Amos looking just like Lonergan, Bogdan and Jussi when they lost it. Clough should have had 2 if he was good enough and what was that wall? The two smallest in the team? I'll go to the foot of our stairs ........................... and no commentary from Tower FM - I refuse to pay to listen to the worst commentator in the world on the Official website, how is he still employed? And of course Blackburn's game was postponed so they will be well rested for our Monday game. Give us a break ................ www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/10110506/rotherham-4-0-boltonFrom BBC: Possession 56%/44% Shots 18 7 On target 10 2 Corners 12 1 Fouls 19 1
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 26, 2015 19:01:06 GMT
Bloody hell fire, then stats are shocking!! 19 fouls from them, 1 foul from us!!!!!! Only one team gonna win with them stats Just seen the goals on SKY and OMG, my 10 year old could have scored with them opportunities, come to think of it, he could have defended better as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 19:21:15 GMT
Bloody hell fire, then stats are shocking!! 19 fouls from them, 1 foul from us!!!!!! Only one team gonna win with them stats Just seen the goals on SKY and OMG, my 10 year old could have scored with them opportunities, come to think of it, he could have defended better as well. those stats are wrong it was 19 /14 or there abouts ,getting sick of seeing the same mistakes by the so called manager , make one error as a defender and your out if that's the case how come Feeney plays every week ? then takes the best tackling defender of and brings on a useless winger , if he ( Lennon) had one ounce of pride left he would walk away now , but I bet he wont cause no one else will now employ him.
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Post by andyl on Dec 26, 2015 19:50:42 GMT
No I wasn't there. Greydad was. Maybe he'll steel himself to offer a few thoughts...
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Post by andyl on Dec 26, 2015 19:55:10 GMT
I will say that when goals went in I texted friends at the game to ask if Neil had reverted to depleting midfield using both Feeney and Silva as wingers and basically letting us get swamped. It's what I thought he would do on the basis of earlier judgments which led to lost points earlier
These losses are not all Neil's fault but he has to be accountable for some of the judgments . I doubt restoring Dervite was a good call?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 20:07:56 GMT
I will say that when goals went in I texted friends at the game to ask if Neil had reverted to depleting midfield using both Feeney and Silva as wingers and basically letting us get swamped. It's what I thought he would do on the basis of earlier judgments which led to lost points earlier These losses are not all Neil's fault but he has to be accountable for some of the judgments . I doubt restoring Dervite was a good call? Your right Andy playing Dervite was one big mistake as was playing the fat boy , not all the results as you say are NLs fault but he does pick the team and is responsible ,its the same mistakes as we have all come to expect he is just not learning IMO its time for him to go now .
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 26, 2015 20:22:01 GMT
I am just glad that this shower haven't been paid, they don't deserve a wage, and they don't deserve to be paid any time soon. An absolute disgrace. Lennon says he won't walk "it's not in his nature"..... no doubt that's how he got into bother with all these women, couldn't walk away from one before taking up with the next.
And if this is a team playing for their manager, I'd hate to see one that isn't.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 26, 2015 20:40:00 GMT
Darkshite and Davies must be pissin their sides at Lennon!! They won't be the ones to sack him, one of em's so ill he doesn't know what league we're in and the other simply couldn't give a shit and whilst Lennon is still rumbling around the red tops (newspapers not bra's) with his personal antics, it deflects the attention away from them two and from the real issues of administration, takeovers and debts etc etc !!!
If Lennon was to walk in the morning, he might just scrape an ounce of sympathy from some folks, if he sticks around to see is sink further and further into the abyss and refuses to resign, he's going to end up the most hated man ever to have managed BWFC After Freedman of course Do the decent thing Lennon, let domeone else have a go
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Post by greydad on Dec 26, 2015 22:02:56 GMT
I have now steeled myself Andy L...the alarmingly familiar pattern of wasting gilt-edged chances before succumbing to an inevitable defeat was followed to the letter yet again today. Had Clough taken his best opportunity, albeit against the run of mediocre play all round, who knows? Unfortunately things deteriorated rapidly, and Rotherham sensed a kill in a manner redolent of the subjects of David Attenborough's recent series 'The Hunt'. It seems invidious to offer player ratings as in my opinion no-one emerged from the game with much, if any credit. Spearing's withdrawal was inexplicable other than it following an established template, regardless of circumstance, and yet again history repeated itself as the opening goal came from a player left unmarked just outside the area from a corner. The shot was well hit, but appeared to transfix Amos, at whom it was hit directly towards. The wound duly opened, the kill followed swiftly as the Wanderers capitulated in a manner suggesting that not only had heads dropped, but hearts had been by-passed...hearing the fans baying for the blood of both manager and players was disheartening , but difficult to argue against, and I'm not sure how the club will recover. All in all one of the most disappointing experiences watching the Wanderers since THAT semi-final. Personal frustrations were compounded by the absence of Cassado and Deryk again, 2 players who are capable of receiving and using the ball in a productive manner. I fear for Monday's game, is there any possibility that today's debacle can offer some sort of catharsis, or will the team and manager remain doomed to allow history to continually repeat itself...indeed, are the players actually good enough, or proud enough to confront and confound history, and is the manager able to rise to the formidable challenge he is facing and somehow inspire a performance to raise our spirits ? On today's evidence neither scenario looks likely, but if THE local derby, at home, does not inspire the necessary commitment and endeavour to at least compete then I fear the runes are well and truly cast for the New Year. My eternal optimism is all but exhausted, even more so having just watched the 'low-lights' on 5!
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