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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 21, 2015 16:14:01 GMT
Eddie Davies - Illness Phil Gartside - Illness Administration Financial troubles FFP Dean Holdsworth Amir Khan Sports Shield Stelios Giannakopolous Injuries Suspensions All words used to deflect attention from a totally and utterly inept manager in Neil Lennon. He is the reason we sit bottom suffering defeat after defeat, this is his team and the man has got no eye for talent, no eye for a bargain, no means of orchestrating a victory and nothing strong, positive or moral boosting for us poor suffering fans. Bloke scores s hat trick V Bury so what does Flitcroft do? He signs him on loan and guess what? He scores on his debut. Different league I know but I'm sure Flitcroft could do a better job than Lennon, who is living off that game v Bsrca and nothing else. If the only way is up, we need to act now and find a manager that's got some fight to do it, Kevin is not that man, regardless of takeover talk and financial problems. We must surely be worth more value as a team in a league that you can jump out of and into the money leave rather than being sold as a League 1 club with no where to go but further into the abyss
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 21, 2015 16:15:50 GMT
Eddie Davies - Illness Phil Gartside - Illness Administration Financial troubles FFP Dean Holdsworth Amir Khan Sports Shield Stelios Giannakopolous Injuries Suspensions All words used to deflect attention from a totally and utterly inept manager in Neil Lennon. He is the reason we sit bottom suffering defeat after defeat, this is his team and the man has got no eye for talent, no eye for a bargain, no means of orchestrating a victory and nothing strong, positive or moral boosting for us poor suffering fans. Bloke scores s hat trick V Bury so what does Flitcroft do? He signs him on loan and guess what? He scores on his debut. Different league I know but I'm sure Flitcroft could do a better job than Lennon, who is living off that game v Bsrca and nothing else. If the only way is up, we need to act now and find a manager that's got some fight to do it, Kevin is not that man, regardless of takeover talk and financial problems. We must surely be worth more value as a team in a league that you can jump out of and into the money leave rather than being sold as a League 1 club with no where to go but further into the abyss Meant to say Lennon is not the man predictive text again
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Post by spanishjonny on Nov 21, 2015 16:41:14 GMT
Eddie Davies - illness Phil Gartside- illness Bolton fans- Sick!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 21, 2015 17:02:56 GMT
Eddie Davies - illness Phil Gartside- illness Bolton fans- Sick! Very funny SJ We are now rock bottom I believe? Well done Lennon. All your fault Get rid now
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 18:57:39 GMT
Eddie Davies - illness Phil Gartside- illness Bolton fans- Sick! Very funny SJ We are now rock bottom I believe? Well done Lennon. All your fault Get rid now Sadly I have to agree ,12 months ago I said this man was on a steep learning curve ,well it seems it was to steep the lad never learns , we need a goal who comes on? Heskey when did he last score god knows , we need to play 5-3-2 with some quick young keen lads up front not fat lazy never will bee's the sooner this takeover comes the better (if ever it does) age don't matter its being keen and willing to work to the bitter end play ground football and it will work boot it up to the fat men and it wont ,so TAXI for the little fella .
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Post by Trotter on Nov 21, 2015 20:22:09 GMT
The only way in this league is now up ..... coyw
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Post by OohMac on Nov 21, 2015 20:35:23 GMT
When the team news came through I admit there wasn't too much I'd change. Obviously Clayton for Feeney and maybe Derick for Prince. The only positives i've seen in the last four weeks is the genuine pace of Clayton so for him not to play is criminal.
Prince is a harder one to call because I'll be honest, and this might offend some of you on here but the 4 centre backs are all stumps. Wheater very much included. Yes he might stand in front of a shot and take one in the face which might deceive people into thinking he's a strong "old fashioned" centre back but I want all our players to have more of a football brain than he does. He is as ugly and useful as a scarecrow sometimes. I'd definitely look to playing 5 at the back because they can't defend. None of them.
I'm also sick of this notion that Mark Davies is one of the best players in the league. On what basis? Training? Doesn't count for much. I'm not sure if he has ever fit into any system we have played. If we ever turned down £6M from Swansea then more fool us because I cannot see us getting 20% of that now.
Pratley has probably been rushed back and not produced anywhere what he was last season. A goal grabbing dynamic centre midfielder. He is no captain!
Again i'm annoyed but also relieved only a 2-1. But its paints over the cracks. We just cannot score. We're heavily reliant on penalties and have missed as many as we've scored. I cannot believe that we don't have a better option that Heskey be it a 20 year old, a 17 year old or a 15 year old.
On a side note. If we did sack Lennon, and I don't care either way at this moment, people said that we couldn't afford to sack him but really would Lennon get anything. Wouldn't we just not pay anything until he takes us to court, wins and the judge orders us to pay him £X amount and we owe this much so we simply don't have x amount, by the time it got to that stage maybe we'll have a new owner and maybe the debt would be written off. Is that way off the mark?
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Post by OohMac on Nov 21, 2015 20:40:58 GMT
The only way in this league is now up ..... coyw The only way is out. I was thinking that the two things that have surprised me the most this season is that we've managed to beat Wolves and that there was a team worse than us. As i thought that Rotherham scored and went above us. Fair play. In the Premiership I knew all the teams around us, their next 3 fixtures, whether they were playing a team in Europe the same week and what injuries and suspensions they may have. With the championship there isn't the same us vs them for me, i just see it that if we're really that bad that we can't finish 21st in a league of 24 then you deserve to go down. Good luck to the others. At this point i'm resigned to going down, maybe even relishing it and getting rid of all the bloody deadwood and playing some young players and letting them run wild. Maybe naive and maybe a bit green but just let them young lads show the bloody Heskey's what they may be able to do.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 21, 2015 21:07:10 GMT
Actually!!! Who would be the man responsible for sacking Lennon now that Darkslime is out of the frame?? Is it that Birch bloke??
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Post by andyl on Nov 21, 2015 21:08:56 GMT
I laid out my stall above re what I wanted to see.Neil did not deliver so I am bound to feel that our 24th place whilst not vindicating or proving my arguments most certainly does not disprove them?
I wasn't at the game. Messages from one who was suggest that we had a pretty good go late on and could have had a second pen. I have no problem with an ageing Heskey getting ten minutes or so. And I understand he made a positive difference in those minutes. I can believe it. That's been so most times he has come on but I agree he's not the man to get late goals
Clayton is returning from a long injury. He cannot be overused yet but yes in my opinion the young Clayton and what I've seen of the young Twardzik for me argues for their inclusion
Prince apparently made a dreadful error for goal one. Sky said that Ameobi lost possession for goal two. Neil says we made individual mistakes and missed chances. Yes,Neil but despite the demoralising context we have been vulnerable to counter attacks from lost possession upfield all season. That suggests to me that our midfield defensive screen is inadequate and I'd like to get it right. There is a pattern here. We push forward , have early chances which we usually miss except at QPR and then over commit to be caught on the break.
Spirit is good but for me the tactical overview is naive sometimes and we keep playing the same game over and over again.
The daft thing is that home and away we have been well in many games so we are not far off and there is hope, If only..
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Post by one2many on Nov 21, 2015 21:34:36 GMT
No need to sack Lennon, just put him on gardening leave for 10 games and let the B team coach take over. If results improve, we know that Lennon is useless. If results don't improve, bring back Lennon and let him try again.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 22, 2015 11:13:54 GMT
www.skysports.com/iframe/widget/video/owaTYxeTqI8t1zmvMoEkkOWsUq8X32_N#ooid=owaTYxeTqI8t1zmvMoEkkOWsUq8X32_NFrom these short highlights and from listening on Tower FM it all boils down to bad mistakes yet again and not having a Jamie Vardy on form striker and bad luck yet again. We were dominating the game up to the first goal according to Tower FM and finished well, trying hard to the end as usual. Oh - Forgot about the best keeper that we have had in years being on fire for the opposition! Possession50%50%90mins Shots 19 14 On target 4 5 Corners 10 3 Fouls 14 18
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Post by Trotter on Nov 22, 2015 14:40:12 GMT
Hi Pedro, decisions decisions!! it's what football is all about, I had the dilemma last night in having to decide which match to watch, Man.City v Liverpool or Real Madrid v Barcelona, I choose City v Liv and thought Liverpool gave the best display from a team I have seen this season they were an entirely different outfit than when Rodgers managed them earlier in the season making me think can we have a new manager then thought how on earth are we going to be able to pay Lennon off and then give a new contract to another manager who would want to bring his own staff and players in so my decision/thoughts are how on earth have we let our club get in this position (sad)
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Post by andyl on Nov 23, 2015 16:50:44 GMT
Liverpool were excellent and Spurs equally so the next day. I toyed with Channel 5 and BWFC highlights but somehow Saga Noren on BBC 4 seemed preferable - fewer dead bodies?
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