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Post by OohMac on Sept 9, 2015 8:10:40 GMT
After a few dab squib International games and an even dabber squibbier transfer window i'm happy to get back to regular match day talk. (On a side note, have we even had as few internationals in our squad, even before the Big Sam era we had a few Irish, Scottish players in the side.) I didn't think we had any until I saw Medo was away(we must be able to send him out on loan or make better use) and of course Neil Danns is technically an international now. That feels more like cash for honours or honorary degrees than merited. On another sidenote Bogdan has put all developed skills into action by sitting on the bench for Hungary...their number one was Kiraly. You may remember him from playing in pyjamas, being hammered by Paul Scholes and for generally being rubbish.
Back to the game, two old boys return. £14M rated, seriously, Afobe and Adam Le Fondre who I think we may have been linked with in the summer. Wolves are an example, and there are many around, of teams improving after being relegated to the third tier. Man City, Southampton, Norwich, Sheff Weds all done this recently. I think it gives developing players a chance to play and also gives them confidence and builds momentum. But lets face it, we don't want to see that.
Wolves are strong, is my point. After a couple of well fought draws albeit void of any skill I think we definitely have a foundation to build from. Few debutants maybe. For me Clough is the key this weekend. Two goals in the same fixture last season and I think players have that in mind when they take to the pitch/their defenders too. Should be showing Zack all the highlights from last season and asking for the same again.
I'm happy for Madine to get another crack but I think the kind of balls we play to him needs to change, get to the byline and whip some in with pace and lets see if he's a handful there, not just looping them up to him 40 yards, back to goal.
If Wolves turn up I'm not sure we could contain them. Happy with a draw, but would be nice to get the first win. It must come in the next two home games.
1-2 though.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 9, 2015 9:51:14 GMT
Well
Ipswich, Burnley, QPR and our opponents Wolves are 'riding high' in the Championship at the moment, but they all have something we don't!!! They've all shipped more goals than us, so that's a promising start,
BUT...
Collectively, they have bagged 33 goals between them to our ONE...
Therein lies the problem (which we all know about)
So with that in mind, I can only predict at the very least, a goal less drab affair!
Seriously though!!! With the AA attacking us in ALF and Afobe, they should be worth 2 apiece.
I'll sadly go with 1-3
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Post by andyl on Sept 9, 2015 15:22:55 GMT
We clearly have a good chance to improve our league position over the next few days. The goallessness of previous games casts a shadow over these but maybe we can invoke the spirit of John McGinlay and past encounters. Presumably Osede will come in for The suspended Dervite. Clough and Madine as a pairing demonstrably doesn't work. Maybe Dobbie deserves a start. Or maybe starting with both Heskey and Madine as suggested last game may be an option. I do think we are better with the two of them.. But of course not for full games. We'll see. No doubt Neil will pop an unexpected rabbit out of his hat as usual? Rather hope not. Simple may be best. If for example Feeney plays it must be in his only useful position on the right and ditto Walker (less likely because he's in the naughty corner currently ) on the left.
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Post by davidm on Sept 9, 2015 16:02:24 GMT
Wolves are strong, is my point. I think we are reading to much into our opponents capabilities. September is the month for us to progress! Wolves are 12th in the league - 2 wins, 2 defeats and a draw; Sheff W are 15th with only 5 points and Huddersfield are 22nd - only ahead of us on goal difference. Brighton are the only ones offering any threat. Surely this is the time to be looking to gather points - 10 points from 4 games will do for September. We will beat Wolves or am I just delusional through lack of watching any football for what seems like ages? |
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Post by Trotter on Sept 9, 2015 18:41:26 GMT
I cannot dream of any other result v Wolves than a victory, sorry it's in my blood and genes that every time we play Wolves we win - simple.
Wanderers (the only one) 3 Wolves 0
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Post by OohMac on Sept 10, 2015 18:57:38 GMT
Wolves are strong, is my point. I think we are reading to much into our opponents capabilities. or am I just delusional through lack of watching any football for what seems like ages? Truth is I don't know too much about us this season. Which team will turn up? We're in the relegation zone and struggling. On paper you'd think we'd been woeful but truth is with the exception of Boro and the 5-3-1-1 experiment we've been in with a chance in every game. Better than Derby and MK Dons and as good as the others. |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 11, 2015 13:01:51 GMT
Of ALF
He faces one for his former clubs on Saturday when Wolves go to Bolton, where Le Fondre rejuvenated his career under Neil Lennon during the final three months of last season.
Wolves boss Kenny Jackett has joked that Le Fondre should give a slideshow presentation ahead of Saturday's game.
Le Fondre added: "They've got a few new players in since last season who I don't know, but what I do know is that I had a great three months there under Neil Lennon. He was brilliant for me.
"I was having a bad spell at Cardiff. A lot of things were happening but the fact is I wasn't playing well enough and wasn't scoring enough goals.
"He invigorated me and brought the best out of me."
Are you reading this Gartside?? Neil's as good as told you who he'd like to sign and yet you stood aside to let him join Wolves!!! Terrible chairmanship. I wont have it that we couldn't do one marquee signing for half a million, no team's that skint in this league, it's just poor management of all things accounts..
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Post by one2many on Sept 12, 2015 11:38:44 GMT
We can't score for love or money and they have 2 strikers on top of their game. Add this to a new and inexperienced central defence partnership and I fear the worst. 0-2
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Sept 12, 2015 14:40:46 GMT
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it would be the man we love to hate
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 14:54:05 GMT
and now it2-0
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 12, 2015 16:00:23 GMT
Well I never expected that and only the eternal optimist would have gone for that result Who needs ALF  Well done Wanderers |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 12, 2015 16:02:31 GMT
I cannot dream of any other result v Wolves than a victory, sorry it's in my blood and genes that every time we play Wolves we win - simple. Wanderers (the only one) 3 Wolves 0 Come on Trott, that prediction was surely in hope |
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Post by andyl on Sept 12, 2015 16:25:37 GMT
Forget new signings!Spend the money on defibrillators for the crowd.
A great battling win with some excellent individual performances and a good start. I'm very critical of managerial decisions in the game. At 2-0 it screamed for Spearing and at the end for both him and perhaps Dobbie. We got none of that and hung on by the thinnest of margins.
I'll reflect on this and add more considered comments when back home but for now some player marks
Amos 9 Wilson 7 Osede 9 Prince 8 Moxey 8 Danns 5 Mark D 10 Feeney 5 Madine 1 Clough 5 Silva 6 Vela 6
Re Feeney his goal was really good and he made more than one cross but much of the time he was weak. Re Madine off the pace,missed or rather avoided a sitter after a superb cross and but for fifteen mins in the second half non competitive. Re Amos and Prince each one bad error but otherwise excellent. Re Mark D a superbly controlled game and two brilliant runs , one quite magnificent blotted only by Heskey's miss. Osede is much better than Dervite. Wilson made mistakes in the run up to their penalty
A win; three vital points but a roller coaster for fans
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Post by davidm on Sept 12, 2015 18:22:57 GMT
A decent performance but mass panic towards the end.
There was some reasonable attacking in the first half but none too creative. We scored the first goal thanks to some terrible defending by Wolves. Wellington caused quite a bit of panic with good runs eventually winning a penalty. Credit Clough for a cool penalty.
Second half, Wolves pushed us back but mainly through a lot of longballs. Their penalty looked a bit iffy. Prince got in a tangle with Le Fondre, who dived constantly through the match, and somehow he conceded a pen.
After that it was backs to the wall and we reverted to counter attacking football. And we played it well! Mark Davies created 3 wonderful chances for Madine, Heskey and himself which were all missed.
At the moment, we struggle to keep hold of the ball. Wolves were regaining possession too easily.
Amos - 7 - one mistake in the second half could have cost us but, overall, another good performance.
Wilson - 6 - steady but occasional slips
Moxey - 8 - excellent. He got no help at all from Wellington and was often facing 2 men but coped well.
Prince - 6 - a real mixture of excellence and chaos. Could have conceded a pen in first half with shirt pull and did some awful passes.
Derik - 6 - like Prince, a bit of everything. Not sure if he is physically strong enough.
Feeney - 6 - took his goal well but his distribution and final ball was poor
Wellington - 8 - decisive run for 2nd goal. Scarey for the opposition.
Davies - 9 - once Clough went off,he pushed forward and created 3 wonderful chances
Danns - 6 - worked really hard but there is something still missing from his form.
Clough - 6 - good penalty and a few good runs but not back to last season's form yet
Madine - 5 - a real struggle. Missed an absolute sitter
As I said, a good long awaited win. The points are welcome. Another 3 on Tuesday please.
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