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Post by westandlower on Jul 5, 2015 17:08:56 GMT
Anyone else go to the Atherton Cols game? Did anyone impress / have a 'mare?
As you may have read elsewhere, both teams changed virtually all their players at half time. Without a programme or team sheet and the almost totally inaudible PA system it was hard to tell who was who for the most part.
Both our teams were u 21 / u 18 players. The grass was a bit long and there is quite a slope on the pitch. We started playing up the slope.
Cols surprised me with their skill level and desire to play to feet (for the most part). Once or twice early on we got behind them only to be rugby tackled But overall ig was a clean game sensibly refereed. Connor Wilkinson didn't look out of place playing in their company (sooner he goes the better). Woolery did ok and was a bit unlucky not to score having rounded the keeper. Campbell in goal pulled off a few good saves. The player to standout I don't know but the others called him "Vinny" - a ball playing centre half (number 6).
Jussi's son played the second half in goal. Got lost a few times and if Cols had been better finishers we might even have lost the game
Overall we had most of the play but I can only recall their keeper being really tested the once. Didnt see Eaves there. Cant imagine he is with the first team. Maybe he is on trial somewhere?
Hopefully it was just cobwebs and we will do better in the next game.
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Post by westandlower on Jul 5, 2015 17:19:03 GMT
After a bit more research "Vinny" may have been Alex Finney.
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Post by megsontilidie on Jul 7, 2015 9:18:45 GMT
www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wanderers/13373977.Pre_season_trips_are_not_always_an_indicator_of_how_a_campaign_will_go/what a ridiculous article by the BN ? they agree that DF's too pre-seasons were pretty poor and the previous one with OC at start of 1st in ch'ship. but then they state : "A year earlier, however, Coyle's Wanderers had won two out of their three matches Stateside against Houston Dynamo and Orlando City but would go on to endure a painful campaign that culminated in relegation from the Premier League" hang on..we did start that PL season very well..how does 4-0 away to QPR sound !! it was only the ludicrously bad run of top 5 teams that was bound to kill the start to that season. its not just the foreign trip fixtures it's the domestic ones too... you might excuse one bad one, but you can't just ignore failing to beat or score against a string of lower league sides... they can't start using the excuse of..."it's only fitness, results don't matter " ..aren't the opposition also trying to get fit..and if they are football lge sides they have exactly the same start date to aim for as us. of course pre-season results don't matter in one sense..the sense that if you are playing against sides tougher than you..real madrid, ac milan etc... getting a 2-1 defeat would probably be a good result and indicative of a good performance. a 2-1 win against a scottish 5th tier side would not impress. why do we always seem to play sides who are weaker than us no matter who the manager is. ideally you want the right blend of dispatching weaker sides..to test your attack & creativity, and get goal confident, and playing tougher sides to challenge your defence and playing with minimal possession.
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Post by andyl on Jul 7, 2015 9:21:52 GMT
I just think that a few victories and goals help fan enthusiasm..and defeats dent it!
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Post by Pedro on Jul 13, 2015 17:04:31 GMT
I just think that a few victories and goals help fan enthusiasm..and defeats dent it! LOL Deja Vu all over again. Lost that one to the relegated team Paderborn 4-1 . The good news is - or is it? Ranieri has got the Leicester job WOT next? A thrashing by Morecambe?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2015 8:36:43 GMT
Hops subtly AndyL But I fear a beating at Chorley tonight
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2015 8:39:11 GMT
Hops subtly AndyL But I fear a beating at Chorley tonight Predictive iPhone text, how on earth can 'quite possibly' change to 'hops subtly' Crazy
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Post by andyl on Jul 17, 2015 6:55:58 GMT
Hops subtly AndyL But I fear a beating at Chorley tonight Predictive iPhone text, how on earth can 'quite possibly' change to 'hops subtly' Crazy Hops can have that effect in excess????I watched Paderborn highlights. We should have scored one or two but some appalling gaffes. One wonder goal embarrassment. A fan who was there texted scores during game and clearly found it grim. There's an indifferent atmosphere around at the moment and investment from somewhere is essential. A bit of the car park to be sold . To Normid? ? We need to win a game or two to lift spirits. Now!!! At present Derby at home looks a difficult start!
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Post by OohMac on Jul 17, 2015 21:10:22 GMT
Another defeat 2-1 to Morecambe with a pretty solid side Amos, White, Dervite, Derik, Moxey, Spearing, Danns, Pratley, Dobbie, Walker, Heskey. At least 7 of those could be starting against Derby. Made me coin a new phrase "Nomentum" when you can't get going as we've seen for the past three years.
I'm very worried to be honest, we're playing minnows and we're not even keeping the ball well and creating chances. By the sound of it there's only Dobbie busting a gut to get in the starting XI in 3 weeks time.
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Post by Trotter on Jul 18, 2015 6:53:25 GMT
Got to agree with Oooooo pre season defeats to the likes of Morcambe does not bode well for the coming season, I know in previous seasons I have stated friendlies and results of them are unimportant but we seem like a club in crisis (we are in fact) so come the the Derby match and a great deal has to change not only in attitude but in trying to give us fans some sort of confidence because in football confidence goes a very long way in getting results on the pitch. COYW
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Post by one2many on Jul 18, 2015 7:26:01 GMT
Every year for the last 3 seasons we've been saying that the pre season games don't matter. Of course the results are not going to affect league position or anything, but especially in the last 2 years, horrible pre season results have been followed by disastrous results in the league. I for one am concerned.
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Post by Pedro on Jul 18, 2015 9:01:59 GMT
I just think that a few victories and goals help fan enthusiasm..and defeats dent it! LOL Deja Vu all over again. Lost that one to the relegated team Paderborn 4-1 . The good news is - or is it? Ranieri has got the Leicester job WOT next? A thrashing by Morecambe? Who wants the lottery numbers for tonight! Did you read the report of Feeney's miss 'with the goal at his mercy' skyed it over the stand and into the car park!
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 19, 2015 7:53:16 GMT
The problem for me is that we never seem to have any semblance of a settled side. I know we have to give all the players a chance, especially the new ones, but surely we should at least have the core of the proposed first team attempting to gel together. At the moment we have absolutely no idea who's going where apart from probably Amos, and more controversially Feeney who seems to be a Lennon favourite for some strange reason. As for the results, it's almost impossible for players to gel when they're chopped and changed every match whoever you're playing. By now surely Lennon should be fielding a more settled side with results as important as performances in order to build some momentum and confidence before the season starts. Very disappointed with NL at the moment and sick of hearing about finances. Just work with what you've got until something changes one way or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 8:58:30 GMT
Well said whites my take on pre-season is fitness and building a side for the season. I only hope there are three teams worse than us this season for I think it will be a long season with more disappointment. Why have we still not got a striker that's any good or a right back.
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Post by joanna on Jul 19, 2015 9:54:30 GMT
After the Morecambe game, NL said: “At this stage we are also still mixing and matching the teams up to ensure everyone gets some football. I think it is at this stage now we’ll start looking at a lot more of the senior boys playing."
I agree, though, that confidence, togetherness and understanding are massive issues in sport. We need to be going into the first league match brimming with team spirit based on successful pre-season displays which have bonded the squad so that they are familiar with each other's game and feel positive and energised.
Better start this process now!
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